Good to see that landing in Siberia. I have never been in a position to do so, but I always liked the idea. It is large, generally undefended, and a back door into Russia.
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I don't think South Agrica is a good example. The blacks of south africa invaded in about 1700. They committed genocide against the native bushmen, before the 2nd Boer war there was actually quite a stir about it. The blacks now living in africa are not native ancesters of the region and killed most of the original inhabitants. Far more than the British did.
As for post war plans I agree with what should be done with Africa.
As for Europe, things get a bit more difficult.
France should be given everything back except Alsace-Lorraine, the reason for this is that by 1914 the vast majority of Alsace was German while Lorraine was about 51% French. That was 1914 however and since the current year (to my knowledge) is 1957, that would make it 87 years instead of 40 or so that the Germans have controlled the region. with all that time it's likely that both would be mostly German by now. So giving it back to the French might pose a slight problem.
Now you could break off Bohemia-Moravia excluding the Sudetenland area and form Czechoslovakia, I don't think the Germans would be too upset as long as Germans stay in one country.
Germany keeps Austria, thats goes without saying.
Slovenia and Croatia could be broken off though I advise against forming Yugoslavia.
The former territory of the United Baltic Duchy is a something to ponder since technically it's mostly German now even though it's only been about 30-40 years? is that enough time to be considered "part of the Reich"
The area that Germany lost to Denmark after the real WW1 could be given back since Bismarck actually planned to hold plebiscites on the matter but (either because he kept postponing it or simply was never able to) he never held any. But like Alsace-Lorraine it's could be mostly German now.
And lastly theres Poland. Technically this is a bigger issue since unlike OTL Poland is fighting on the same side as Germany, and then the Germans also planned to "Germanize" the areas they annexed from Congress Poland and the Polish territory they already had so no telling how successful they might be, but if their previous attempts are any indication then the areas might still be mostly Polish. Honestly if you have to break something off then do the historical route except leave the Polish corridor and Danzig to Germany. That way Prussia has a land connection to the rest of Germany
As for Europe, things get a bit more difficult.
France should be given everything back except Alsace-Lorraine, the reason for this is that by 1914 the vast majority of Alsace was German while Lorraine was about 51% French. That was 1914 however and since the current year (to my knowledge) is 1957, that would make it 87 years instead of 40 or so that the Germans have controlled the region. with all that time it's likely that both would be mostly German by now. So giving it back to the French might pose a slight problem.
Now you could break off Bohemia-Moravia excluding the Sudetenland area and form Czechoslovakia, I don't think the Germans would be too upset as long as Germans stay in one country.
Germany keeps Austria, thats goes without saying.
Slovenia and Croatia could be broken off though I advise against forming Yugoslavia.
The former territory of the United Baltic Duchy is a something to ponder since technically it's mostly German now even though it's only been about 30-40 years? is that enough time to be considered "part of the Reich"
The area that Germany lost to Denmark after the real WW1 could be given back since Bismarck actually planned to hold plebiscites on the matter but (either because he kept postponing it or simply was never able to) he never held any. But like Alsace-Lorraine it's could be mostly German now.
And lastly theres Poland. Technically this is a bigger issue since unlike OTL Poland is fighting on the same side as Germany, and then the Germans also planned to "Germanize" the areas they annexed from Congress Poland and the Polish territory they already had so no telling how successful they might be, but if their previous attempts are any indication then the areas might still be mostly Polish. Honestly if you have to break something off then do the historical route except leave the Polish corridor and Danzig to Germany. That way Prussia has a land connection to the rest of Germany
Why not do a kind of India-Pakistan set up in Africa? A small area with the most French settlers (Algeria?) will become an independent French run state with the French settlers in other areas of Africa are forced to go to the independent French state. Likewise with the natives left in the French state. The remainder of French Africa will become independent based on ethnic lines. This way you don't have a post colonial slaughter of whites like in Zimbabwe or Congo.
The landing in Siberia should come as a shock to the Russians, but due to the awful infrastructure and huge marching times I don't know how much you'll be able to conquer before they can rush major reinforcements there.
The difficulty of moving men in the region will also be effecting them, so he should be able to do a far amount of damage.
@Karaiskandar: The infrastructure shouldn't be that big of a problem. Remember, these divisions are the ones that got through the Congo within weeks. They are largely Air cavalry and Marine units, which should not suffer too much difficulty.
@Asalto: Yeah, its funny seeing all of these old guard generals, who look like they fought in 1905 or 1914 now battling it out in world war 3 with weapons and equipment most of them probably never thought they would see. I bet most of them wish they had those AK-47's, T-62's, and MiG-19's 40 years ago.
@Zeldar155: That is only a drop in the bucket for the Russians. It sometimes seems like they have unlimited reserves for their forces.
@salidas16: It is probably too early to be discussing postwar Europe, but one thing is for sure: I am going to strip Germany of all that it has gained since 1936. Austria, the Baltic Duchy, Bohemia/Czech Republic, Croatia, all of them will be removed from German control.
@everyone else: thanks for the comments!
In the Atlantic ocean, allied destroyers on routine patrol run into a huge German carrier armada just to the east of Bermuda. All contact is lost when the German carriers wipe these small allied warships out to the last ship.
Back in India, a titanic battle takes place as the allied forces throw everything they have at destroying the Russian bridgehead over the Indus river. In ferocious fighting, over 1 million allied troops, mostly from the Indian army, slug it out with another 1 million Russian soldiers, who have the huge advantage of fighting with massive tank and mechanized support. Realizing that retaking Lahore is hopeless at this point, the allied troops disengage, a great failure in the Indian theatre.
Back at sea, the German fleet that had been rampaging around the Atlantic ocean begins to run the English Channel back to German ports. In their path are the relatively outdated ships of the revived British Royal Navy, which include a number of aircraft carriers. Realizing that they have no hope against such a powerful German fleet, the British retreat back to port.
Believing that they have safely made it through the English Channel, the German naval commanders are shocked when they see what is waiting to meet them at the other side. The German fleet runs headlong into a huge armada of US navy warships, including all of the US navy's Enterprise class aircraft carriers and huge numbers of escorting vessels. Realizing they are totally outmatched, the German fleet flee to the east, but not after suffering damage due to American carrier airstrikes.
The US navy is not content with allowing the German's to rest unharassed. American aircraft carriers immediately begin launching massive air raids on the German fleet at anchor, hitting these docked warships with wave after wave of jet aircraft. Due to the huge amount of targets, the raiding jets are unable to sink many vessels, but do manage to destroy at least 2 enemy carriers as well as some escorts.
Meanwhile, back in the far east, US and allied troops manage to make yet another landing along the Siberian coast, this time, just across from Sakhalin island. This force however is smaller than the army that landed in Okhotsk, made up of former occupation troops from Japan, as well as a 120,000 strong expeditionary force from the army of the Republic of Korea.
The fighting in China is now moving further north, towards the border with Russian controlled Mongolia. Here, at Datong, a mix of Qing and Russian units attempt to hold up the US advance in the mountain ranges of the region. Although fighting bravely, these enemy units are forced to retreat after heavy fighting.
Back in Europe, the German fleet decides to make another sortie out into the Atlantic through the English Channel. Not expecting this move, the British Royal navy is caught off guard in the channel, and is slaughtered by German carriers. The British losses are devastating, including all of Britain's aircraft carriers and their only battleship. It will take a long time before the British are ready for frontline combat at sea again.
In Anatolia, US and South African troops attempt a large scale offensive against enemy forces along the southern Mediterranean coastline. However, this attack goes badly right from the start, as huge Ottoman forces, supported by Bulgarian mountaineers, fight back any attempts by allied troops to take control of the province. Realizing that they cannot make any meaningful advances, the attack is called off.
Meanwhile, along the coast of eastern Africa, the German colony of Madagascar is captured by units of the Platinean army, operating out of South Africa.
@Asalto: Yeah, its funny seeing all of these old guard generals, who look like they fought in 1905 or 1914 now battling it out in world war 3 with weapons and equipment most of them probably never thought they would see. I bet most of them wish they had those AK-47's, T-62's, and MiG-19's 40 years ago.
@Zeldar155: That is only a drop in the bucket for the Russians. It sometimes seems like they have unlimited reserves for their forces.
@salidas16: It is probably too early to be discussing postwar Europe, but one thing is for sure: I am going to strip Germany of all that it has gained since 1936. Austria, the Baltic Duchy, Bohemia/Czech Republic, Croatia, all of them will be removed from German control.
@everyone else: thanks for the comments!
In the Atlantic ocean, allied destroyers on routine patrol run into a huge German carrier armada just to the east of Bermuda. All contact is lost when the German carriers wipe these small allied warships out to the last ship.
Back in India, a titanic battle takes place as the allied forces throw everything they have at destroying the Russian bridgehead over the Indus river. In ferocious fighting, over 1 million allied troops, mostly from the Indian army, slug it out with another 1 million Russian soldiers, who have the huge advantage of fighting with massive tank and mechanized support. Realizing that retaking Lahore is hopeless at this point, the allied troops disengage, a great failure in the Indian theatre.
Back at sea, the German fleet that had been rampaging around the Atlantic ocean begins to run the English Channel back to German ports. In their path are the relatively outdated ships of the revived British Royal Navy, which include a number of aircraft carriers. Realizing that they have no hope against such a powerful German fleet, the British retreat back to port.
Believing that they have safely made it through the English Channel, the German naval commanders are shocked when they see what is waiting to meet them at the other side. The German fleet runs headlong into a huge armada of US navy warships, including all of the US navy's Enterprise class aircraft carriers and huge numbers of escorting vessels. Realizing they are totally outmatched, the German fleet flee to the east, but not after suffering damage due to American carrier airstrikes.
The US navy is not content with allowing the German's to rest unharassed. American aircraft carriers immediately begin launching massive air raids on the German fleet at anchor, hitting these docked warships with wave after wave of jet aircraft. Due to the huge amount of targets, the raiding jets are unable to sink many vessels, but do manage to destroy at least 2 enemy carriers as well as some escorts.
Meanwhile, back in the far east, US and allied troops manage to make yet another landing along the Siberian coast, this time, just across from Sakhalin island. This force however is smaller than the army that landed in Okhotsk, made up of former occupation troops from Japan, as well as a 120,000 strong expeditionary force from the army of the Republic of Korea.
The fighting in China is now moving further north, towards the border with Russian controlled Mongolia. Here, at Datong, a mix of Qing and Russian units attempt to hold up the US advance in the mountain ranges of the region. Although fighting bravely, these enemy units are forced to retreat after heavy fighting.
Back in Europe, the German fleet decides to make another sortie out into the Atlantic through the English Channel. Not expecting this move, the British Royal navy is caught off guard in the channel, and is slaughtered by German carriers. The British losses are devastating, including all of Britain's aircraft carriers and their only battleship. It will take a long time before the British are ready for frontline combat at sea again.
In Anatolia, US and South African troops attempt a large scale offensive against enemy forces along the southern Mediterranean coastline. However, this attack goes badly right from the start, as huge Ottoman forces, supported by Bulgarian mountaineers, fight back any attempts by allied troops to take control of the province. Realizing that they cannot make any meaningful advances, the attack is called off.
Meanwhile, along the coast of eastern Africa, the German colony of Madagascar is captured by units of the Platinean army, operating out of South Africa.
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I agree with this. It'll result in a Israel like situation where Algeria is a regional superpower with nukes and close ties with a large military power (France) but its the only way that the violence of Rhodesia/Zimbabwe can be avoided.
Bye, bye Royal Navy.
Fortunately the USN is up to the task when it comes to control the seas.
Fortunately the USN is up to the task when it comes to control the seas.
It's a shame about the RN, looks like America has to do the work of its alles yet again. Except for La Plata of course.
@Midge: Israel like solution with a nuclear armed Algeria? That is not acceptable. To me, that situation is just asking for huge instability with neighboring states, as well as the local Arab/African population inside Algeria. I will not tolerate Algeria turning into this time line's version of the Arab/Israeli conflict.
Nuclear proliferation after the war is over is also not going to happen, especially with how I imagine this war will unfold in its later stages....
@SovietAmerika: Unfortunately, La Plata will have to relinquish control of places like Madagascar when the war is over. That shouldn't be a problem hopefully, since the US is the alliance leader and the Platineans can be proud of their contributions to the war effort.
@Karaiskandar: Sometimes when you want something done right, you have to do it yourself.
@Zhuge Liang: La Plata and my South American allies never fail to impress me. When the war is over, I would bet that the allied nations of South America will have a good position in the new democratic, peaceful world.
@everyone: thanks for the comments!
With the Russians continuing to put pressure on the Indian front, US commanders decide to launch some limited offensives to draw their attention. The first of these attacks takes place at the city of Tehran, the former capital of Persia. The battle unfolds very positively for the Americans, as the city's 120,000 defenders are caught off guard and forced to retreat.
Further north, US troops attack the city of Novorossisk, just across from the Crimean peninsula. Here again, US troops are successful.
As US forces secure Tehran, the Russian army begins the first of many attempts to take the city back. The Russian's first attempt, although at first promising, is beaten back by heavy American mechanized forces.
Meanwhile, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff begin to implement the plans for another large scale operation against the enemy. Four massive US navy battlegroups leave the British port of Scapa Flow and fan out throughout the North Sea.
With the sea lanes secure, an American invasion fleet, carrying 120,000 soldiers, veterans of the African theatre, moves into position off the coast of Norway.
Without facing any opposition, US forces land in the port city of Bergen, northwest of Oslo.
US troops begin to spread out in all directions, moving into the Southern Norweigan countryside. The tiny and obsolescent Norwegian army, caught totally unprepared, has no answer to this invasion, with its units being swept away by US marines.
Back in Persia, US forces are hit by a massive enemy counterattack, led by elite mountain infantry of the Bulgarian Army. This time, American troops in the city are hit hard by the enemy forces, and have to pull back into the western mountain ranges.
Back in Norway, the Scandinavian front receives a massive reinforcement package, courtesy of the British army. Tens of Thousands of British troops, including armoured and Royal Marine units, land in the port of Bergen and begin to move towards the frontlines.
The first major battle of the British army in Scandinavia is at Oslo, where a British armoured corps storms the city, defended by only 2 divisions of demoralized Norwegian soldiers. Faced with the overwhelming firepower of British tanks, the Norwegian army is forced to flee the city, across the border into Sweden.
Nuclear proliferation after the war is over is also not going to happen, especially with how I imagine this war will unfold in its later stages....
@SovietAmerika: Unfortunately, La Plata will have to relinquish control of places like Madagascar when the war is over. That shouldn't be a problem hopefully, since the US is the alliance leader and the Platineans can be proud of their contributions to the war effort.
@Karaiskandar: Sometimes when you want something done right, you have to do it yourself.
@Zhuge Liang: La Plata and my South American allies never fail to impress me. When the war is over, I would bet that the allied nations of South America will have a good position in the new democratic, peaceful world.
@everyone: thanks for the comments!
With the Russians continuing to put pressure on the Indian front, US commanders decide to launch some limited offensives to draw their attention. The first of these attacks takes place at the city of Tehran, the former capital of Persia. The battle unfolds very positively for the Americans, as the city's 120,000 defenders are caught off guard and forced to retreat.
Further north, US troops attack the city of Novorossisk, just across from the Crimean peninsula. Here again, US troops are successful.
As US forces secure Tehran, the Russian army begins the first of many attempts to take the city back. The Russian's first attempt, although at first promising, is beaten back by heavy American mechanized forces.
Meanwhile, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff begin to implement the plans for another large scale operation against the enemy. Four massive US navy battlegroups leave the British port of Scapa Flow and fan out throughout the North Sea.
With the sea lanes secure, an American invasion fleet, carrying 120,000 soldiers, veterans of the African theatre, moves into position off the coast of Norway.
Without facing any opposition, US forces land in the port city of Bergen, northwest of Oslo.
US troops begin to spread out in all directions, moving into the Southern Norweigan countryside. The tiny and obsolescent Norwegian army, caught totally unprepared, has no answer to this invasion, with its units being swept away by US marines.
Back in Persia, US forces are hit by a massive enemy counterattack, led by elite mountain infantry of the Bulgarian Army. This time, American troops in the city are hit hard by the enemy forces, and have to pull back into the western mountain ranges.
Back in Norway, the Scandinavian front receives a massive reinforcement package, courtesy of the British army. Tens of Thousands of British troops, including armoured and Royal Marine units, land in the port of Bergen and begin to move towards the frontlines.
The first major battle of the British army in Scandinavia is at Oslo, where a British armoured corps storms the city, defended by only 2 divisions of demoralized Norwegian soldiers. Faced with the overwhelming firepower of British tanks, the Norwegian army is forced to flee the city, across the border into Sweden.
Thank god! You yankes arrived abit late, But finally democracy will be restored to my nation
Is the Russian capital in Moscow or St. Petersburg again? Cause if you manage to gain control of all of Scandinavia then you could seriously threaten the Russian government and even Berlin itself! Though you will have to go through Finland first, and god help the men faced with such a mission.
British navy just isn't what it was in the past...
Nice advance in Scandinavia! This region will be important foothold for further operations in Europe.
Nice advance in Scandinavia! This region will be important foothold for further operations in Europe.
The British will have the opportunity to avenge the destruction of the once Glorious Royal Navy on the ground.
Norway will soon be secured.
Norway will soon be secured.
Germany and Russia still haven't learnt the lesson that their weaker allies need to be defended and it's costing them once again. If they don't do something to stop this latest invasion quickly then I can easily see American soldiers at the gates of St Petersburg before long.
Great updates! Is Terboven still HoS in Norway, or have they fixed that?
Also, you might want to do something about the swastikas on German naval icons (as shown in the naval battles and the raids on Wilhelmshafen), since they're a-ahistorical and in violation of forum rules.
Also, you might want to do something about the swastikas on German naval icons (as shown in the naval battles and the raids on Wilhelmshafen), since they're a-ahistorical and in violation of forum rules.
Interesting, an assault on Norway, should help be a catalyst for an invasion of the German mainland.