I think it shouldn`t be hard to implement (in most cases, few of features here would need some more effort to implement).
It is pretty funny to see islamic theocracy with +1 papal "influenza" or any non catholic theocracy for that matter. Also it would be nice to differ theocracies in therms of hmm aggresivnes, I don`t know how to name it properly but there is huge difference between military orders like teutons or islamic fanatics and rather peaceful HRE bishoprics. SO below few suggestions:
NOTE that: I am not speaking about NIs, only about gov. types.
Catholic theocracies
Bihopric;
bonuses: same as now
elections (after death of previous bishop):
a) as an overlord - pop up event with options
1) deus lo vult - pope/archbishop send a new bishop in place of a decesed one + 5 papal "influenza" -10 prestige
2) I heard my cousin is looking for a job... - gerhard von yourdynasty will be new bishop of derpington bishopric -5 papal inf. +10 prestige. It may also give some minor % for catholics reform desire
b) as an bishopric
1) back up pope`s candidate - +5 papal inf.
2) back up overlord`a candidate + 6x or maybe 12x month income. It may also give some minor % for catholics reform desire
3) Your holiness, divine states shouldn`t be under rule of no human but God (and Your Holiness) only - try to convince pope to help you in gaining independence, chances: 0.5 x papal inf = % (max 50%) each try cost you 12xmonth income (bribes in curia etc.) and -100 to relations with overlord.
option 3 should fire an event at overlords country but im still thinking about it...
Monastic states (military orders);
bonuses: +2% missionaries, -3 tolerance for heretics and heatens, +10% morale against heretics and heatens
elections (after death of previous grand master):
1) deus lo vult - pope/archbishop send a new grand master in place of a decesed one + 5 papal "influenza" RNG stats
2) Your Holinnes there`s this faithful young man in our ranks ready to serve God and stuff... % chance of getting new Grand Master with pre-RNG (visible while taking decision) stats, % is connected to current papal inf. 1 to 1
3) My lord ! don`t you think that one of your greatest knights should lead our order to glory... ? + 100/50/25 realations with X kingdom, -10 papal inf., + *** gold, GM with pre-RNG (visible while taking decision)
X country would get also an event: 1,2,3) of course, and take this donation also: 12 month income, 6 month income, 1 month income + 100, 50, 25 relations, + 20/10/2 papal inf.
4) It was dark, I was young but oh well... my son need to take what is rightfully his -20 papal inf. +2 unrests new GM with RNG+2 stats appears, +1% reform desire for cat.s
Archbishoprics;
bonuses: +2 true faith, -2 heretcis, +10% tax modifier
elections (after death of previous archbishop):
1) deus lo vult - pope sends a new archbishop in place of a decesed one +15 papal "influenza" RNG stats
2) Your Holinnes there`s this faithful young man in our ranks ready to serve God and stuff... % chance of getting new Grand Master with visible but RNG stats, % is connected to current papal inf. 1 to 1
3) My lord ! don`t you think that one of your nobles should take care of these lands... ? + 100/50/25 realations with X kingdom, -20 papal inf., + *** gold, GM with pre-RNG (visible while taking decision)
X country would get also an event: 1,2,3) of course, and take this donation also: 12 month income, 6 month income, 1 month income + 100, 50, 25 relations, + 20/10/2 papal inf.
4) It was dark, I was young but oh well... my son need to take what is rightfully his -20 papal inf. +2 unrests new GM with RNG+2 stats appears, +1% reform desire for cat.s
Orthodox:
Metropolis (free): +2 true faith, -15% to raise stability, +1 dip reputation
elections:
1) deus lo vult - patriarch send a new pop in place of a decesed one + 5% of patriarch authority RNG stats
2) Dear Patriarch, there`s this young man ready to lead this state... - 5% of patriarch authority RNG stats
3) My lord ! don`t you think that one of your nobles should take care of these lands... ? + 100/50/25 realations with X orthodox kingdom, -10 % of patriarch authority RNG+1 stats + *** gold,
X country would get also an event: 1,2,3) of course, and take this donation also: 12 month income, 6 month income, 1 month income + 100, 50, 25 relations, and + 2, 1, 0.5% for missionaries until death of new pop.
Metropolis (vassal): +2 true faith, -15% to raise stability, -2 unrests
a) as an overlord - pop up event with options
1) deus lo vult - Patriarch send a new pop in place of a decesed one + 5% of patriarch authority; RNG stats
2) Hey you ! Yeah you... patricia? oh Patriarch... whatever, you will send him as a new pop -10% of patriarch authority; RNG stats +5 prestige.
b) as an vassal
1) back up pope`s candidate - +5 of patriarch authority;
2) back up overlord`a candidate -5 of patriarch authority; + 6x or maybe 12x month income.
BONUS(hard to implement): orthodox theocracy could try to become the Patriarch but I have no idea for now what should be the proces and what bonuses it should give.
Islam:
Well i don`t know if there were any others theocracies than Caliphate, but I think for the game purposes islamic theocracy could be divided into Caliphates (free and vassals) and as a bonus when this ordinary Caliphate unite enough land/unite islam it will become Grand Caliphate with new bonuses.
Anyway
caliphates (Free and vassals):
bonuses: +3 to own faith, -4 to heatens and heretics, +3% for missionaries
elections: I don`t know how it should work in islamic states
Grand Caliphate (after uniting islam or gathering designated lands)
bonuses: +5 to own faith, -15 to heatens and heretics, +5% for missionaries -150 relations with all infidels
elections: none. "stable" dynasty
Buddhist, confucian, neoconf. theocracies:
bonuses: +2 tolerance to all, +5% discipline
elections: just RNG.
I`m not sure if there were coptic or protestant theocracies (as far as I know none protestant, reformed etc. theocracy existed but I may be mistaken). As you can see, I have better historical background when it comes to catholics theocracies, but I hope sb more expirianced with other religions make here valid suggestions.
Thanks for reading, and sry for typos, this is long post and I may missed some of them.
EDITED: all edits (for now) were due to typos, grammar, etc. issues
It is pretty funny to see islamic theocracy with +1 papal "influenza" or any non catholic theocracy for that matter. Also it would be nice to differ theocracies in therms of hmm aggresivnes, I don`t know how to name it properly but there is huge difference between military orders like teutons or islamic fanatics and rather peaceful HRE bishoprics. SO below few suggestions:
NOTE that: I am not speaking about NIs, only about gov. types.
Catholic theocracies
Bihopric;
bonuses: same as now
elections (after death of previous bishop):
a) as an overlord - pop up event with options
1) deus lo vult - pope/archbishop send a new bishop in place of a decesed one + 5 papal "influenza" -10 prestige
2) I heard my cousin is looking for a job... - gerhard von yourdynasty will be new bishop of derpington bishopric -5 papal inf. +10 prestige. It may also give some minor % for catholics reform desire
b) as an bishopric
1) back up pope`s candidate - +5 papal inf.
2) back up overlord`a candidate + 6x or maybe 12x month income. It may also give some minor % for catholics reform desire
3) Your holiness, divine states shouldn`t be under rule of no human but God (and Your Holiness) only - try to convince pope to help you in gaining independence, chances: 0.5 x papal inf = % (max 50%) each try cost you 12xmonth income (bribes in curia etc.) and -100 to relations with overlord.
option 3 should fire an event at overlords country but im still thinking about it...
Monastic states (military orders);
bonuses: +2% missionaries, -3 tolerance for heretics and heatens, +10% morale against heretics and heatens
elections (after death of previous grand master):
1) deus lo vult - pope/archbishop send a new grand master in place of a decesed one + 5 papal "influenza" RNG stats
2) Your Holinnes there`s this faithful young man in our ranks ready to serve God and stuff... % chance of getting new Grand Master with pre-RNG (visible while taking decision) stats, % is connected to current papal inf. 1 to 1
3) My lord ! don`t you think that one of your greatest knights should lead our order to glory... ? + 100/50/25 realations with X kingdom, -10 papal inf., + *** gold, GM with pre-RNG (visible while taking decision)
X country would get also an event: 1,2,3) of course, and take this donation also: 12 month income, 6 month income, 1 month income + 100, 50, 25 relations, + 20/10/2 papal inf.
4) It was dark, I was young but oh well... my son need to take what is rightfully his -20 papal inf. +2 unrests new GM with RNG+2 stats appears, +1% reform desire for cat.s
Archbishoprics;
bonuses: +2 true faith, -2 heretcis, +10% tax modifier
elections (after death of previous archbishop):
1) deus lo vult - pope sends a new archbishop in place of a decesed one +15 papal "influenza" RNG stats
2) Your Holinnes there`s this faithful young man in our ranks ready to serve God and stuff... % chance of getting new Grand Master with visible but RNG stats, % is connected to current papal inf. 1 to 1
3) My lord ! don`t you think that one of your nobles should take care of these lands... ? + 100/50/25 realations with X kingdom, -20 papal inf., + *** gold, GM with pre-RNG (visible while taking decision)
X country would get also an event: 1,2,3) of course, and take this donation also: 12 month income, 6 month income, 1 month income + 100, 50, 25 relations, + 20/10/2 papal inf.
4) It was dark, I was young but oh well... my son need to take what is rightfully his -20 papal inf. +2 unrests new GM with RNG+2 stats appears, +1% reform desire for cat.s
Orthodox:
Metropolis (free): +2 true faith, -15% to raise stability, +1 dip reputation
elections:
1) deus lo vult - patriarch send a new pop in place of a decesed one + 5% of patriarch authority RNG stats
2) Dear Patriarch, there`s this young man ready to lead this state... - 5% of patriarch authority RNG stats
3) My lord ! don`t you think that one of your nobles should take care of these lands... ? + 100/50/25 realations with X orthodox kingdom, -10 % of patriarch authority RNG+1 stats + *** gold,
X country would get also an event: 1,2,3) of course, and take this donation also: 12 month income, 6 month income, 1 month income + 100, 50, 25 relations, and + 2, 1, 0.5% for missionaries until death of new pop.
Metropolis (vassal): +2 true faith, -15% to raise stability, -2 unrests
a) as an overlord - pop up event with options
1) deus lo vult - Patriarch send a new pop in place of a decesed one + 5% of patriarch authority; RNG stats
2) Hey you ! Yeah you... patricia? oh Patriarch... whatever, you will send him as a new pop -10% of patriarch authority; RNG stats +5 prestige.
b) as an vassal
1) back up pope`s candidate - +5 of patriarch authority;
2) back up overlord`a candidate -5 of patriarch authority; + 6x or maybe 12x month income.
BONUS(hard to implement): orthodox theocracy could try to become the Patriarch but I have no idea for now what should be the proces and what bonuses it should give.
Islam:
Well i don`t know if there were any others theocracies than Caliphate, but I think for the game purposes islamic theocracy could be divided into Caliphates (free and vassals) and as a bonus when this ordinary Caliphate unite enough land/unite islam it will become Grand Caliphate with new bonuses.
Anyway
caliphates (Free and vassals):
bonuses: +3 to own faith, -4 to heatens and heretics, +3% for missionaries
elections: I don`t know how it should work in islamic states
Grand Caliphate (after uniting islam or gathering designated lands)
bonuses: +5 to own faith, -15 to heatens and heretics, +5% for missionaries -150 relations with all infidels
elections: none. "stable" dynasty
Buddhist, confucian, neoconf. theocracies:
bonuses: +2 tolerance to all, +5% discipline
elections: just RNG.
I`m not sure if there were coptic or protestant theocracies (as far as I know none protestant, reformed etc. theocracy existed but I may be mistaken). As you can see, I have better historical background when it comes to catholics theocracies, but I hope sb more expirianced with other religions make here valid suggestions.
Thanks for reading, and sry for typos, this is long post and I may missed some of them.
EDITED: all edits (for now) were due to typos, grammar, etc. issues
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