Improved Releasable Nations

[Mattymooz]

NOTE : Coming soon to the Steam Workshop : http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=451040975​

This time my focus was adding new tags to add more depth. Some of them are there from the start, but many are there so that you can break up large countries.

I believe, in total I added 51 tags (plus adding in 2 nations that have tags in Vanilla but no way to spawn). I want to say thanks to @Neprut as well as all the guys on the Shattered Europa team for giving me permission to use some of their tags and flags in my mod!

Apparently you can't have a post with more than 35 images in it, so no looking at the 1444 nations for you! Have a look at my other threads

First, the releaseable tags:

Spoiler: Albret

Albret is catholic and gascon.

Spoiler: Amalfi

Amalfi is catholic and neapolitain

Spoiler: Angouleme

Angouleme is catholic and francien.

Spoiler: Apulia

Apulia is catholic and Lucano

Spoiler: Beloozero

Beloozero is orthodox and russian.

Spoiler: Bruttium

Bruttium is catholic and sicilian

Spoiler: East Anglia

East Anglia is catholic and the primary nation of east anglian.

Spoiler: Fribourg

Fribourg is catholic and arpitan.

Spoiler: Geneva

Geneva is catholic and arpitan.

Spoiler: Great Moravia

Great Moravia is catholic and the primary nation of moravian.

Spoiler: Highlands

Highlands is catholic and the primary nation of Gaelic.

Spoiler: Iceland

Iceland is catholic and icelandic.

Spoiler: Ingria

Ingria is orthodox and karelian.

Spoiler: Lustasia

Lustasia is catholic and the primary nation of sorbian.

Spoiler: Mercia

Mercia is catholic and english.

Spoiler: Nitra

Nitra is catholic and the primary nation of slovak.

Spoiler: Northumbria

Northumbria is catholic and northern (and is formed by Northumberland).

Spoiler: Poitou

Poitou is catholic and francien.

Spoiler: Ruppin

Ruppin is catholic and saxon.

Spoiler: Scania

Scania is catholic and danish.

Spoiler: Spoleto

Spoleto is catholic and the primary nation of umbrian

Spoiler: Valais

Valais is catholic and arpitan.

Spoiler: Verona

Verona is catholic and venetian.

Spoiler: Wessex

Wessex is catholic and english.

And finally the tags that have always been in the game:

Spoiler: Parma

Parma is catholic and lombard

Spoiler: Jan Mayen

Jan Mayen is norse and icelandic

 

[Basileios Makedon]

Jan Mayen!

Hmm... I don't know nothing about moravia but I think it was catholic

 

[Vaximillian]

You messed up screenshots for Mercia (shows East Anglia) and Nyitra (shows Great Moravia).
Northumbria which is formed by… Northumberland? Seriously? A tag just for the sake of adding a tag.
Also, Jan Mayen. Really, why? It should have stayed an easter egg. By the way, have you deleted the OP Invasion modifier for it? You'd better.
Moravia (why the hell Great? Great Moravia has been dead for half a millenium) and Nyitra should definitely be Catholic.

 

[Nucky]

Just have 'Moravia', with cores only in Brno and Olomouc, and catholic. And here is a better CoA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margraviate_of_Moravia

I would say 'Lusatia' instead of 'Lustasia'. I'm sure there are better CoA, this one is too recent. Take the one of lower or upper lusatia for example.

The Angouleme province sould not have La Rochelle as its capital, as La Rochelle was not part of Angoumois. Idealy La Rochelle should be the capital of another province, Saintonge.

I don't think that Poitou should produce salt, its more for Vendée. Wheat is more appropriate.

St Malo province sould be named 'Rennais', as Rennes is and was much more important.

Otherwise great work! I see you made some improvements in the Brittany names, awesome!

 

[Mattymooz]

The Angouleme province sould not have La Rochelle as its capital, as La Rochelle was not part of Angoumois. Idealy La Rochelle should be the capital of another province, Saintonge.

Most of the time it is called Saintonge, but when angoulmois owns it it is called angoulmeme

the rest i'll change in a sec

 

[X-Factor]

I'll be touching only Nitra as I'm familiar with this and I'm living in that region.
I see that you are trying to create Releasable nation for Slovak people so....
Nitra as a principality colapsed around 11th century so creating tag for Nitra ... I'm not feeling it.
1. Slovak tag should be catholic and should be located where you have Slovak culture
2. Nitra as a City is currently outside of the country border

Last know Nitra borders here on your EU4 map (Pozsony, Zolyom, Trencin, Szepes)
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But i will rather scratch whole Nitra idea and focus more on 15th - 18th century
If you don't want to create Slovakia as releasable nation for whatever reason we can focus on cities/region with higher local autonomy.
From this point of view I will choose Trencin. It will be just 1 province minot country. Religion: catholic, Dynasty: Zapolsky ... here is history of city: http://www.trencin.sk/en/historiadata

If you would like to create Slovakia here's the mod: here ....you can grab the data from that mod ...on your map it will be (Pozsony, Zolyom, Trencin, Szepes and Abauj)

 

[X-Factor]

If you would like to create Tag for Moravian people just create Moravia (Morava)...it will be 2 provinces minor country (Brno and Olomouc)

 

[Mattymooz]

You messed up screenshots for Mercia (shows East Anglia) and Nyitra (shows Great Moravia).
Northumbria which is formed by… Northumberland? Seriously? A tag just for the sake of adding a tag.
Also, Jan Mayen. Really, why? It should have stayed an easter egg. By the way, have you deleted the OP Invasion modifier for it? You'd better.
Moravia (why the hell Great? Great Moravia has been dead for half a millenium) and Nyitra should definitely be Catholic.

Northumberland is such a bad tag, but I don't really know how to remove tags D: (other than just removing the core which seemed a bit pointless as you'd still have the lag from it)
Jan Mayen was already a province and I wanted a nordic nation that could be released so (and I haven't deleted the modifier and may not do as it's hilarious)
And Great Moravia is now just Moravia. I called it that so it was more historical than just 'Moravia' (and so that the primary tag for the culture didn't have the same name)

I'll be touching only Nitra as I'm familiar with this and I'm living in that region.
I see that you are trying to create Releasable nation for Slovak people so....
Nitra as a principality colapsed around 11th century so creating tag for Nitra ... I'm not feeling it.
1. Slovak tag should be catholic and should be located where you have Slovak culture
2. Nitra as a City is currently outside of the country border

Last know Nitra borders here on your EU4 map (Pozsony, Zolyom, Trencin, Szepes)
-----------------------------------------------------
But i will rather scratch whole Nitra idea and focus more on 15th - 18th century
If you don't want to create Slovakia as releasable nation for whatever reason we can focus on cities/region with higher local autonomy.
From this point of view I will choose Trencin. It will be just 1 province minot country. Religion: catholic, Dynasty: Zapolsky ... here is history of city: http://www.trencin.sk/en/historiadata

If you would like to create Slovakia here's the mod: here ....you can grab the data from that mod ...on your map it will be (Pozsony, Zolyom, Trencin, Szepes and Abauj)

Yeah, I had the wrong image in there (after pasting like 50 of them I was apparently loosing focus). The new one shows Nitra (should be like dark blue). I would prefer to have a releaseable country that is larger than just one province though, as imo there is no point in releasing an OPM (who ever has released krakow or berry, I mean cmon). In some smaller countries I have opm releaseables (see ruppin) but for something as big as hungary, I'd prefer not to.

 

[talilu]

You can rename Northumberland to Northumbria without having to add a tag at localisation, if the name is the thing that bothers you.

Although I'm sure all of the tags you added are accurate, all these tags would lag the game alot. Maybe removing some of the OPMs that doesn't have historical significance/has been dead for too long/is not a primary culture tag to speed up the game a little bit more would be better.

Seeing this post, are you going to end your map improvements or this tag improvement is kind of a side-project? Since Anatolia/Crimea/Caucasus would also like some improvement!

 

[Grand Historian]

How about adding in Thessalonica, Nicaea, Antioch, Cilicia, Vidin and Karvuna?

Although, it would probably be better to separate this from your new province mod; more tags means more lag, and not everyone wants that.

 

[X-Factor]

Yeah, I had the wrong image in there (after pasting like 50 of them I was apparently loosing focus). The new one shows Nitra (should be like dark blue). I would prefer to have a releaseable country that is larger than just one province though, as imo there is no point in releasing an OPM (who ever has released krakow or berry, I mean cmon). In some smaller countries I have opm releaseables (see ruppin) but for something as big as hungary, I'd prefer not to.

I see.... in that case I will rather call it Slovakia.....if you are sticking with Nitra here's Coat of Arms to replace that Slovene one on the picture.
Province Names:
Pozsony - Prešporok
Trencsen - Trenčín
Zolyom - Zvolen
Szepes - Spiš
Abauj - Abov
Color is Nice. Regarding dynasty names, monarch/leader names or ideas you can grab Mod from my signature below and take the information from there.

 

[Vaximillian]

Indeed, Slovakia rather than Nyitra makes much more sense.
(not that adding tags for the sake of adding tags makes much sense anyway… but this is not the case)

 

[edwardianed]

Essex shouldn't be part of East Anglia; East Anglia was home to Angles ("East Angle Land") whereas Essex was home to Saxons ("East Saxons").

 

[bzflater]

Why is Ingria Karelian when the Ingrian culture exists in vanilla?

 

[Secuter]

How about adding in Thessalonica, Nicaea, Antioch, Cilicia, Vidin and Karvuna?

Although, it would probably be better to separate this from your new province mod; more tags means more lag, and not everyone wants that.

Cilicia had been long conquered, now owned by lesser Beyleks. Karvuna, well, its a part of Bulgaria, and Bulgaria is already weak.
I can see the merit in Antioch, since it were a bastion of Orthodoxy and were hold by different crusader states.. but that is also a long time ago.

Doesn't Fribourg have the same flag as Ulm currently have?

Many of those nations you created in England were long dead, I mean.. Mercia? Really.. England had been unified country since I don't know, the high medieval.

 

[Grand Historian]

Cilicia had been long conquered, now owned by lesser Beyleks. Karvuna, well, its a part of Bulgaria, and Bulgaria is already weak.
I can see the merit in Antioch, since it were a bastion of Orthodoxy and were hold by different crusader states.. but that is also a long time ago.

Well, given that Mercia and Wessex are in, I figure that there really isn't any argument for not including nations like those. Besides, Cilicia was conquered long after Mercia. Bulgaria has it's provinces doubled in his mod; Vidin and Karvuna would make it no weaker since they're releasable, but would provide a much needed way to break up a large state.

 

[Vaximillian]

Many of those nations you created in England were long dead, I mean.. Mercia? Really.. England had been unified country since I don't know, the high medieval.

Well, there probably is some sense in allowing to balkanise most large unified tags. Right now, if you defeat France, you can liberate a dozen little French countries, from Armagnac to Orleans. Aragon has Catalonia, Castile has Leon. England only had a 2PM Wales and two OPMs, Cornwall and Northumberland. Doesn't weaken them much, if you ask me.

But dividing up the countries which already aren't large (like Bulgaria and friends), this I can't agree with.

 

[Mattius]

I like Scania, Amalfi, Spoleto, Nitra, and the Swiss minors.

 

[Mattymooz]

You can rename Northumberland to Northumbria without having to add a tag at localisation, if the name is the thing that bothers you.

Although I'm sure all of the tags you added are accurate, all these tags would lag the game alot. Maybe removing some of the OPMs that doesn't have historical significance/has been dead for too long/is not a primary culture tag to speed up the game a little bit more would be better.

Seeing this post, are you going to end your map improvements or this tag improvement is kind of a side-project? Since Anatolia/Crimea/Caucasus would also like some improvement!

Changed the localisation and removed the northumbria tag, hadn't even thought about doing that thanks! And I have seen not a visible change in game speed (Although my pc tanks a lot anyways).

The majority of the tags are either historically significant, culture tags or there to break up larger nations (e.g. Hungary, England and Naples) The only ones that aren't those are fribourg (but it seems stupid to ignore one of the swiss cantons when we have all the others) and Ruppin.

Other than anatolia, I wasn't really going to touch many other places (partly because there is basically no historical maps or anything for that area, partly because I don't play there so I'm not really that interested or inspired to be touching up that land)

How about adding in Thessalonica, Nicaea, Antioch, Cilicia, Vidin and Karvuna?

Although, it would probably be better to separate this from your new province mod; more tags means more lag, and not everyone wants that.

Most of those had been long dead. If I was going to add a new tag it would be thessalonica, but that pretty much just covers the lands that byzantium has so I don't really see the point

I see.... in that case I will rather call it Slovakia.....if you are sticking with Nitra here's Coat of Arms to replace that Slovene one on the picture.
Province Names:
Pozsony - Prešporok
Trencsen - Trenčín
Zolyom - Zvolen
Szepes - Spiš
Abauj - Abov
Color is Nice. Regarding dynasty names, monarch/leader names or ideas you can grab Mod from my signature below and take the information from there.

Will get on with changing this!

Essex shouldn't be part of East Anglia; East Anglia was home to Angles ("East Angle Land") whereas Essex was home to Saxons ("East Saxons").

Admittedly, they were saxon, but they are in the Geographical region of East Anglia (Norfolk, Suffolk, Essex and Cambridgeshire) Which had been known as for a while since then (even documented in the doomsday book)

Why is Ingria Karelian when the Ingrian culture exists in vanilla?

Does it? Unless I'm being an idiot, it doesn't (see a picture of ingermanland below)

Spoiler: Cultures vanilla

Cilicia had been long conquered, now owned by lesser Beyleks. Karvuna, well, its a part of Bulgaria, and Bulgaria is already weak.
I can see the merit in Antioch, since it were a bastion of Orthodoxy and were hold by different crusader states.. but that is also a long time ago.

Doesn't Fribourg have the same flag as Ulm currently have?

Many of those nations you created in England were long dead, I mean.. Mercia? Really.. England had been unified country since I don't know, the high medieval.

Technically no, it has the same flag as Ferarra as they changed Ulm a while ago, but yes it does have the same flag as that is what it was historically, and I'm not good at art so didn't make anything better

And Mercia/Wessex/Northumbria are in because otherwise it is impossible to split up England via just releaseing nations. It's a lot of Basetax to only have one culture/tag for. If you have any better suggestions I would love to know!

Well, given that Mercia and Wessex are in, I figure that there really isn't any argument for not including nations like those. Besides, Cilicia was conquered long after Mercia. Bulgaria has it's provinces doubled in his mod; Vidin and Karvuna would make it no weaker since they're releasable, but would provide a much needed way to break up a large state.

Cilicia is a bit out of the way considering I am only really redoing Europe. If I end up doing Anatolia then I will probably add cilicia then, but if not I won't. And I may add in a nation to break up Bulgaria, I'll have a look.

Well, there probably is some sense in allowing to balkanise most large unified tags. Right now, if you defeat France, you can liberate a dozen little French countries, from Armagnac to Orleans. Aragon has Catalonia, Castile has Leon. England only had a 2PM Wales and two OPMs, Cornwall and Northumberland. Doesn't weaken them much, if you ask me.

But dividing up the countries which already aren't large (like Bulgaria and friends), this I can't agree with.

Bulgaria is relatively large now (province wise it has about 8 I think? maybe 9) but doesn't have much basetax






Sooo much typing omg. And do I take it from this that people want anatolia to be fixed?

 

[Grand Historian]

Bulgaria is relatively large now (province wise it has about 8 I think? maybe 9) but doesn't have much basetax

Sooo much typing omg. And do I take it from this that people want anatolia to be fixed?

It goes to eleven, I believe (counting the 'Macedonian' province). Anatolia is pretty much fine as it is, and looking back on it now Cilicia would be a really pointless tag (would be nigh impossible to make appear; an Armenian core would probably just be better).