Improved HRE map

[Mattymooz]

NOTE : Coming soon to the Steam Workshop : http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=451040975​

After my vision of a better England was so well recieved, I'm just going to start doing other places (mainly in Europe) that I think deserve more better provinces.

Please note that the idea of these changes is too add depth to an area and make it more accurate, but not to go completely indepth in certain areas with tiny provinces. They still need to be clickable and a reasonable size. I'm not going to make an area a mass of utrechts and maltas.

So, this time my focus was the HRE (Everything but the Lowlands, check out my other thread for those changes). Here is what I would change if I was Paradox:

The changes added a total of 18 new provinces. This resulted in 3 new provinces for Austria, 1 for Venice, 1 for Brunswick, 1 for Saxony, 1 for Savoy, 1 for Mr Popeman, 1 for new tag Julich, 1 for new tag Berg, 1 for new tag Strazbourg, 1 for new tag Piombino, 1 for new tag Bologna, 1 for new tag Zollern, 1 for new tag Hohenlohe, 1 for new tag Montfort, 1 for new tag Chur and 1 for new tag Basel.

There have also been new tags added for Geneva, Valais and Fribourg added.

Spoiler: New Provinces Images

I have added Slovene culture, but that is it. All the culture borders have stayed similar to Vanilla

I am also in the process of looking over the Base Tax for the area, though I plan to not change very much. As all the countries are now a lot smaller, there should be more development occurring.

Again I will be uploading it to the workshop soon, so you guys will be able to play with it. Any amendments would be great. My expertise is not in this area of the world so it could be horribly wrong!

 

[ShadowCammy]

At this time Switzerland was actually many small states (known as cantons). Shortly after the start of the game they formed the swiss confederation were they basically worked as a team, before uniting as Switzerland later.

The shape in this mod has been changed a bit as irl the Geneva canton was tiny and you wouldn't have been able to see it, so I had to make it bigger

That would explain it. Geneva seemed odd. Oh well, I like it nonetheless.

Do you have plans to add in small provinces for countries like Liechtenstein or San Marino? You said you'd stay away from Maltas and Utrechts, but just curious.

 

[Vaximillian]

Do you have plans to add in small provinces for countries like Liechtenstein or San Marino? You said you'd stay away from Maltas and Utrechts, but just curious.

I hope he won't.

 

[Mattymooz]

That would explain it. Geneva seemed odd. Oh well, I like it nonetheless.

Do you have plans to add in small provinces for countries like Liechtenstein or San Marino? You said you'd stay away from Maltas and Utrechts, but just curious.

I've added Andorra and Monaco as they were both historically significant, the others no as they are new (Vatican City/Lietchenstien) or did nothing (San Marino)

 

[ShadowCammy]

I've added Andorra and Monaco as they were both historically significant, the others no as they are new (Vatican City/Lietchenstien) or did nothing (San Marino)

San Marino cannot into relevant or sea.
But Monaco and Andorra are good additions. Monaco world conquest when

 

[Mattymooz]

San Marino cannot into relevant or sea.
But Monaco and Andorra are good additions. Monaco world conquest when

Monaco is pretty hard considering you are right next to a buffed Genoa who already has a core on your province (and usually declares in the first year). At least you are historical friends with Aragon!

 

[ShadowCammy]

Monaco is pretty hard considering you are right next to a buffed Genoa who already has a core on your province (and usually declares in the first year). At least you are historical friends with Aragon!

Have you posted a map containing those new additions, or will they be in a separate "better x map" post?

 

[Itchel]

I got an idea, Do you think you could make all the swiss minors under vassalage of one, Possibly bern?

 

[Mattymooz]

I got an idea, Do you think you could make all the swiss minors under vassalage of one, Possibly bern?

I was going to have a decision to do this but I think I am too much of a noob at that kind of modding, so I'll probably do it that way

Have you posted a map containing those new additions, or will they be in a separate "better x map" post?

Have I not done this yet D: I'll sort it in a sec

 

[Itchel]

I was even gonna suggest making all the swiss minors have historical friend modifiers of eachother, Although that would be really OP if they were all vassals(then making it so people would never form switzerland lol...), But there should be some kind of modifier to keep their liberty desire low for at least a few years until the formation of switzerland?

 

[Mattymooz]

I was even gonna suggest making all the swiss minors have historical friend modifiers of eachother, Although that would be really OP if they were all vassals(then making it so people would never form switzerland lol...), But there should be some kind of modifier to keep their liberty desire low for at least a few years until the formation of switzerland?

They already have historical friend. That plus a decision to integrate them all at once after tech 5 and hopefully switzerland should appear frequently ish

 

[Itchel]

They already have historical friend. That plus a decision to integrate them all at once after tech 5 and hopefully switzerland should appear frequently ish

Oh dear, If they were all vassals i'd bet (if controlled by a player) That they'll just immensely vassal feed all of them then when the time comes they form switzerland using that decision.... getting a hell of a lot of free cores

 

[Mattymooz]

Oh dear, If they were all vassals i'd bet (if controlled by a player) That they'll just immensely vassal feed all of them then when the time comes they form switzerland using that decision.... getting a hell of a lot of free cores

I don't think historical friend will stop them being disloyal for that long

 

[Zylathas]

I think the it should not be by decision but by event.

What could work is the following :

Implement an event that fires when either Nation controls the swis provinces ór a nation controls the swis provinces with his vassals.

In that case there is a chance to fire the "switzerland forms" events which creates the tag switzerland (and removes vassals). This event can only fire if the vassals are below a certain development treshold.

I think that can work.

 

[Mattymooz]

So, the way it's going to work is either you have to have conquored certain provinces, or you start as Bern who has all the other cantons as vassals with 3 as historical friends (and 3 without). This means that 3 vassals are already rebeliious and is somewhat accurate as Zurich and Bern were rivals ish and Chur and Basel were only half in the confederation at the time.

 

[Mattymooz]

Here are the pictures of what I have changed so far! I still want to add that extra province to Savoy though:

Spoiler: Images

 

[Zylathas]

Liking it a lot! Can you do anything about the very ugly Venice though? It shouldn't be an isle like how it's represented which makes Venice quite annoying to defeat in battle.

Outside of that; have you thought about splitting Pomerania? It would make that corner somewhat more interesting, as it's the only place in the HRE that now feels quite bland compared to the rest.

Next to that, maybe you could check if it is possible to add one or two hanseatic cities in that region, that would certainly make it somewhat more interesting.

 

[Vaximillian]

For Monaco I'd rather use the flag derived from the coat of arms:

Magdeburg is already red-and-white, and the lozengy flag is kind of unique.

Also, I'd use gold-on-red for Paderborn, as per Wappenwiki:

Red-on-white is already used by Trier (and Genoa!).

 

[Zylathas]

And lastly one other small quip (yeah, I know.. I keep busy with this, but I am enjoying it greatly with looking all this stuff up hahaha) Parma should definitely be a release able nation.

 

[Vaximillian]

It shouldn't be an isle like how it's represented which makes Venice quite annoying to defeat in battle.

But Venice is an isle.

Spoiler

…or a fish, suum quique.

 

[Mattymooz]

And lastly one other small quip (yeah, I know.. I keep busy with this, but I am enjoying it greatly with looking all this stuff up hahaha) Parma should definitely be a release able nation.

Already is (the tag is in game)

Going to release the full list of all releasable nations tomorrow (probably) as there is now a lot!





Any other suggestions are great now though as I think I have finished all the improvements to Europe I wanna do. I'll release the mod tonigh/tomorrow so you guys can have a full look around