Improve saving time in Ironman

[Linio]

As explained here :

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/saving-time.931402/

There is a real issue of saving time in Ironman. Issue that could be prevented by:
1) Reducing the reccurence of saves
2) Remove compression (or at least give the possibility of removing it)
3) Remove a part of the data of the game (old characters and such)

On a good computer with an SSD, the saving time is killing the game in Ironman after long games.

I do understand the point of trying to forbid people getting achievements in a "cheating way", but at this point, you're also forbidding people to have achievements the normal way by having put a system that's clearly not working in the long run.

Since this is not the first topic on the subject, I urge you to consider this...

Thanks.

 

[Silver Wizard]

Let me quote my own suggestion here.

Maybe pdox could consider saving to RAM, then doing the encrypting, compressing, and writing out on a second core while the game goes on? As far as I have understood CK2 is essentially single-threaded, so it would work. (At least on multi-core machines, but who hasn't one these days...)

 

[klopkr]

I'm against removing data from the game. Going back through your history is one of my favourite parts of ck2.

 

[Silver Wizard]

I'm against removing data from the game. Going back through your history is one of my favourite parts of ck2.

You can still remove data from the game without removing the ability to go back through history. You could delete all those landless courtiers without relatives, and nobody would be sad for it.

 

[Linio]

I'm against removing data from the game. Going back through your history is one of my favourite parts of ck2.

There is still two others options.
And the third can easily be put on a checkbox like : [ ] Enable light saves (removes some characters data throughout the game).

The point would be for everyone to appreciate the game the way they want.

Since i saw that it was the compression that was the biggest issue of the saving process, i'm enclined myself to do a duo of 1) and 2) rather than 3).

 

[Silver Wizard]

Since i saw that it was the compression that was the biggest issue of the saving process, i'm enclined myself to do a duo of 1) and 2) rather than 3).

Again, compression is SSD-dependent. I have a traditional hard disk drive, and compression actually reduces saving time for me.

 

[Linio]

Again, do a simple opt-in, opt-out kind of thing.
It's pretty simple really, there's already the possibility to set/unset compression for non Ironman, they just have to put it on Ironman and be done with it.
The same could go for save interval, they could opt for a system which saves for big event (it's already the case) and autosave less regularily, every two or three months could be ok, it's not like people could easily savescum this way...

 

[klopkr]

There is still two others options.
And the third can easily be put on a checkbox like : [ ] Enable light saves (removes some characters data throughout the game).

The point would be for everyone to appreciate the game the way they want.

Since i saw that it was the compression that was the biggest issue of the saving process, i'm enclined myself to do a duo of 1) and 2) rather than 3).

I'm totally good with this.

 

[Linio]

I wish the dev would be too...

I was told the staff actually read the topics there...
Was I fooled?

 

[Silver Wizard]

I wish the dev would be too...

I was told the staff actually read the topics there...
Was I fooled?

They do read it, just rarely respond to threads. That they don't say anything doesn't mean they won't consider taking up a suggestion

 

[Linio]

I wished this would make the cut for the customization of games announced.

It seems strange that although this issue was raised several times before, nothing was done to cure it.

 

[Linio]

In french they call it "Pisser dans un violon"...

 

[Thure]

You can still remove data from the game without removing the ability to go back through history. You could delete all those landless courtiers without relatives, and nobody would be sad for it.

I'm pretty sure the game already do this.

 

[Linio]

I don't think this data is relevant anyway, the size would still be huge.
It's not like most of the data comes from there anyway.

 

[Linio]

Well..

I guess i'll open a support ticket then...