Improve 1933 scenario

[Fernando Torres]

Please post here your suggestions dealing with major powers (ENG, USA, GER, SOV) and historical paths only.

Thanks in advance!

 

[son of liberty]

What are your ideas, your goals for improving the scenario? Where do you want to see it go? I would also like to see improvements for China's tech teams as they reunite the nation. Perhaps a series of events unlocking improved teams? Like better naval teams when they gain control over Guanxi Clique, land teams as they defeat Com Chi, air teams after defeating Japan/fading sun, technology teams after defeating mengkuko and/or manchuko, and increased maximum leader skill levels after defeating Yunnan and/Tibet etc....

 

[Fernando Torres]

I am just collecting your ideas.
But I will not deal with Asia as other people will.

 

[clone1337]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_Civil_War
Maybe there should be the possibility, that Otto I. sees this crual in his home Nation and decides to stop the murdering by coming to Austria at the 14.2.1934.
If he does, he could either support the konservativ Gouvernment and the Reichswehr or the republicans ( I think, he would have choosen the Republicans as we can see in his Vita from 1949 to 2011. ) . After uniting the Austrian People under him and the republicans, he could restore the Habsburg Monarchy as an Constitutional monarchy leading to new monarchy feelings in Hungary ( Kingdom without King in that time ), Kroatia ( the katholic kroats were not very happy in the union with the serbs ) and even the Tschechoslovakia, when Nazi Germany pushs to far and they seek support.
And Maybe Astria and Tschoslovakia just get crushed by Germany and history goes on.

For Mayor Nations:
Germany is not strong enough in 33. As you see, the AI even loses against France and Poland. So you schould import the four-year-plan and schachts industrial organasation. Giving every year Industries and IC-Effectives from 36-39. Also an "Luftwaffe-creation" Event could be used. England ( and with it the RAJ ) should have some revolt in Palestine and India.

The Sovjets must have more Purges and more Problems in this periode but also more events for the faiming in the ukraine and the forced industrialisation ( Leading to dissent and ( heavy? ) manpower loses but a larger industrial base.

 

[unmerged(280506)]

I am just collecting your ideas.
But I will not deal with Asia as other people will.

Fernando who's in charge of fixing up China/Com China? I have some ideas I'd like to suggest but I don't know wheres the best place to post it.

As for the majors... Germany needs to have its AI fixed a lot. I ran scenarios in all the dates but for 1933 Germany seems to love building factories which is ok but when I reloaded and checked around 1936-37 the AI is still creating a fresh batch of factories, coastal fortresses, etc and not focusing on building infantry/mot/armor like it should. I would suggest to limit factory building for the AI to end in 1935-36 at the latest and start pumping out nothing but infantry, motorized, and armor to prepare for Barbarossa in '41. The navy builds should be eliminated and they should only be allowed to build a handful of air units (mostly interceptors). I noticed in all the scenarios Germany just sucks at Barbarossa and this includes the 1941 scenario where the German's (sometimes) can't even reach Moscow and just gets pushed back to Berlin in 4-5 months. For the '33 scenario Germany builds way too few divisions and uses valuable armor/mot divisions guarding the French coasts while starting Barbarossa with 50-60 divisions against the Soviets 200+ division. And despite all the concern German AI gives to protecting France if the Allies invade through the Balkans or even Italy, Germany leaves the invasion completely undefended and unnoticed right up to losing Berlin! The German AI may be able to handle fighting one weak opponent like France or Poland but it can't even manage to eliminate a beachhead with 2 American Divisions in Yugoslavia or Southern France. This makes it not a WWII game but more like an upcoming Cold War with just a sideshow in between.

 

[Fernando Torres]

Thanks for your input.
Is Germany weakness approved by everybody? Is it just the AI or do players also think it is too hard?
There are Arab revolts events already. The SU starts with a huge dissent to simulate famine and everything...

 

[Fernando Torres]

I am not going to affect the AI (too many things to take into account, too little time to do it properly) and I don't know who works on Asia.
I left the team some months ago already.
What I am proposing to do here is just slight improvements to the database (perhaps a couple of new decisions to help Germany).

 

[son of liberty]

Yes 33 German ai is too weak, as is the Italian.

 

[hansnery]

I think all events should be "offerable" and "acceptable", like the Divide land between allies and surrender events primarily.

 

[son of liberty]

Very good point. All peace and surrender events should be rejectable. It always irks me to see "nation "X" has accepted our generous peace offer when I had no intention of offering peace. Most especially the ones that then redeploy my troops all the way back to my capitol.

 

[Fernando Torres]

Yes 33 German ai is too weak, as is the Italian.

I have just played 1933-36 again as Germany and made some tweaks that should be implemented in the next patch.
It should now be slightly easier (less dissent and more IC).

 

[son of liberty]

That's good, FT. I don't want "easier", I want the enemy stronger.

 

[Fernando Torres]

Yes but what I am doing here is to be implemented in the official version and AI tweaks take too long for me (very little free time I can dedicate right now).
But feel free to make further suggestions in the mod section (AI Cheats mod), there we can build you a stronger enemy - albeit artificially.

 

[TremblingBlue]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_Civil_War
Maybe there should be the possibility, that Otto I. sees this crual in his home Nation and decides to stop the murdering by coming to Austria at the 14.2.1934.
If he does, he could either support the konservativ Gouvernment and the Reichswehr or the republicans ( I think, he would have choosen the Republicans as we can see in his Vita from 1949 to 2011. ) . After uniting the Austrian People under him and the republicans, he could restore the Habsburg Monarchy as an Constitutional monarchy leading to new monarchy feelings in Hungary ( Kingdom without King in that time ), Kroatia ( the katholic kroats were not very happy in the union with the serbs ) and even the Tschechoslovakia, when Nazi Germany pushs to far and they seek support.
And Maybe Astria and Tschoslovakia just get crushed by Germany and history goes on.

For Mayor Nations:
Germany is not strong enough in 33. As you see, the AI even loses against France and Poland. So you schould import the four-year-plan and schachts industrial organasation. Giving every year Industries and IC-Effectives from 36-39. Also an "Luftwaffe-creation" Event could be used. England ( and with it the RAJ ) should have some revolt in Palestine and India.

The Sovjets must have more Purges and more Problems in this periode but also more events for the faiming in the ukraine and the forced industrialisation ( Leading to dissent and ( heavy? ) manpower loses but a larger industrial base.

I really the like the idea of a new path for Austria. This could cause an alternative world war scenario!

 

[Limith]

Arab revolts occur perhaps too often, I had it trigger 3-4 times from 1933-1936.

Hope Britain has wartime IC penalty during that duration.

 

[Fernando Torres]

This will be fixed, thanks.

 

[SpaceViking]

I know you said someone else will be looking at Asia but twice now in games Japan went nowhere. In one game I checked a few months after it went to war with China and it had lost 4 or 5 provinces! I checked back later and it finally had taken a few but it never did much else until the British invaded the Japanese islands.

And that is one weird thing I've seen; the British go bananas! Both games they basically took out Germany and Italy all by themselves by the end of '43 (going as far as into Poland!) and then went after the Japanese. In '36 games I've never seen them do anything like that, or at least not so early and so successfully.

 

[Limith]

I hope the someone else won't be CCIP or Burning's Interwar mod.

 

[WimN]

What really should be a beginning is the choice of doctrine; and I don't mean just the branches of a certain doctrine, but entire different one. For example, russians have this mass human wave doctrine, why not something else?

 

[son of liberty]

What really should be a beginning is the choice of doctrine; and I don't mean just the branches of a certain doctrine, but entire different one. For example, russians have this mass human wave doctrine, why not something else?

You can do that. Just click the last researched doctrine and choose abandon doctrine. Continue until you get to choose the option you want. i often do it as the US since their tech teams are more suited to the German branch than their own.