Improve 1914!

[Gukpa]

Hi people I have the suggestion to improve the 1914 scenario because is the greatest innovation than any game in the series has already brought Hoi, and see who can have a good future if we work more on it.Like:

*Middle War events:arabian revolt,german internal collapse 1918,Austrian Hungarian separatists revolts,etc

*Post war events: Greco Turkish War,improved Russian Civil War,American states integration,etc.

*Alternate history post war : Ottomans claims,Austrian claims,German Claims,creation of Nations like Mittelafrika Austria HUngary Civil war

*Start date changed to 1912 with the addition to more events like : Balkan War,italian invasion of Lybia,etc.

If DH team add this,the scenario will be more than flawless

 

[Lucifer]

Please don't mix up German Landwehr with Austrian Landwehr because they share the same name. Austrian Landwehr was part of regular Army and not a reserve formation like in Germany. The army of Austria-Hungary consisted of three parts: 1) the common Army ('Gemeinsame Armee'), 2) the Army of Hungary ('Honved'), and 3) the Army of Austria ('Landwehr'). The Austrian-Hungarian reserve called 'Landsturm'. There were no further differentiation whereas the reserve of German Empire was divided and sorted by quality in 'Reserve', 'Landwehr' and 'Landsturm'. Between these 3 types of reserve there was not only a difference in quality of personnel but also in equipment. So there is already a difference in personnel quality as well as in equipment quality between regular division and reserve division. The difference in these aspects is much bigger compared to Landwehr divisions. Indeed other armies recruited personnel of lower quality as well. But German Army grouped those personnel into specific divisions whereas other countries distributed them. Landwehr divisions were mostly used as reserve units behind the front. There fighting ability was bad. Why should these facts not be represented in game?

This is correct!

 

[Gukpa]

BUt Otacon is correct about France!Add militia for them!

 

[Arturius]

BUt Otacon is correct about France!Add militia for them!

What units do you propose should be represented as militia?

 

[Gukpa]

What units do you propose should be represented as militia?

The actual divisions in the border with Belgium.The Huge part of the French army fight in the Alsace Loraine.

 

[Arturius]

And why those?

 

[Gukpa]

We need to add them,it's the French Gerdamie and some militia convocated by the French Socialist Moviment.

 

[Lucifer]

We need to add them,it's the French Gerdamie and some militia convocated by the French Socialist Moviment.

Now, you must be kidding. I'm French, I know my history, and I can say that your 2 examples are ridiculous.
No, more seriously, reporting bugs like ' this feature is not working' , or 'this is the wrong picture for this guy, it is actually...' is perfectly fine. Asking questions like 'why do you (devs) have choosen to do this, it looks weird to me' is also perfectly ok. But just throwing 'you are wrong', and not being able to support the arguments after several requests, just in my opinion for arguing sake, and because people want a challenge but start complaining when their favorite country is not as easy as they would like, it is only asking the devs to lose their time, when they are very busy. I'm talking only for myself, but that is honestly what I think.

 

[Otacon]

I was indeed unaware that 'Landwehr' terminology differs that much in German and Austrian understanding, so after reading about it, I can now agree that the German Landwehr is represented as Militia, whereas the Austrian is not. That said, I can still not accept that 50% of the German Army is representend as Militia ingame just because we called the conscripted divisions Reserve-Division whereas other nations called them Infantry. But it seems that we've agreed on that one already. So, I'm okay with 3-4 Militia divisions representing the German Landwehr, but not with the current situation. It doesn't bother me much gameplay wise, but it just angers me somehow. Its so... disrespectful.

 

[Revan F]

I think that putting "reserve" units in militia is maybe a little too much, they are well-trained guys (military duties was a pretty serious thing in Germany in 1914), but OK to put Landwehr in militia.
In a gameplay point of wiew, I don't think that Central Power need to be tweaked.

However i have somme suggestions to improve the scenario :
AI :
-Austro-Hungarian AI is always unable to deploy his armies in a propper way on Russian Front, OK they ddi not well historically, but there, it's an open way to Budapest.

-Britsh AI didn't enact the Dardanelles operation......

Events
In a general way : maybe more flexible alliances in the war. I like the new path for Ottoman Empire, it has not a 100% chance to join CP. So let's extend that : CP is not forced to be evrey time the German-Austrian-Turk-Bulgarian coalition, Entente is not forced to be the historical coalition too. So i suggest :

- For the Entente, add a "Recognize Bulgarian rights in the Blakans" (like the austrian "concessions to Italia"), to attempt to drag Bulgaria on his side by promising some of the territories lost in the second Balkan war, however, these decision must anger serbians, turks and greeks a lot (maybe the last two can have a little chance to join CP in reaction)

- For Germany : add a "negociate with Romania" decision, with a very low chance for Romania to join CP (it's not unrealistic), king Charles of Romania was from the same family of emperor Wilhelm and agreeemnts have been concluded between the two countries, the King has no objection to be in the war in german's side, but Romanian people would fight....Austria.

- A chance for Persia and Afghanistan to join against their British/Russians opressors (maybe event with Wilhelm Wassmuss who try to do with persians and Afghan that Lawrence did with the arabs -but fail)

-Ethiopia maybe interested by bringing back italian Somalia/Erythrea by joining italians ennemies?

Other concerns :
- In case of a neutral United Kingdom (so, no Schliffen Plan), Germany could enact a naval blockade of Russia

- Mexican civil war : Huerta always lose it before 1915 or at the beggining of it. Maybe federal Maxico could be strengthen a little?

 

[Gukpa]

Now, you must be kidding. I'm French, I know my history, and I can say that your 2 examples are ridiculous.
No, more seriously, reporting bugs like ' this feature is not working' , or 'this is the wrong picture for this guy, it is actually...' is perfectly fine. Asking questions like 'why do you (devs) have choosen to do this, it looks weird to me' is also perfectly ok. But just throwing 'you are wrong', and not being able to support the arguments after several requests, just in my opinion for arguing sake, and because people want a challenge but start complaining when their favorite country is not as easy as they would like, it is only asking the devs to lose their time, when they are very busy. I'm talking only for myself, but that is honestly what I think.

You are correct,but remember this: Union Sacrée .

 

[MartinBG]

I was indeed unaware that 'Landwehr' terminology differs that much in German and Austrian understanding, so after reading about it, I can now agree that the German Landwehr is represented as Militia, whereas the Austrian is not. That said, I can still not accept that 50% of the German Army is representend as Militia ingame just because we called the conscripted divisions Reserve-Division whereas other nations called them Infantry. But it seems that we've agreed on that one already. So, I'm okay with 3-4 Militia divisions representing the German Landwehr, but not with the current situation. It doesn't bother me much gameplay wise, but it just angers me somehow. Its so... disrespectful.

I haven't followed the whole discussion on the subject, but one of the recent changes to Germany by Arturius was to change many (if not all) MIL to older INF.

 

[Otacon]

Sounds great!

 

[Gukpa]

Sounds Epic!

 

[Gukpa]

Now that I calmed down,let's help the team .

First:We need to make the ottomans troops move faster,but the infrastructure of Turkey are very bad.Because this,make the Mobilization of Ottoman Army give the divisions near of the Sinai Peninsule .

Add events for Russian Empire like : Unrest in Home.After six months,one year,one year and six months,etc of War,to add dissent and lower the quality of the troops.

Make events for th Central powers like: Suez captured. +5 morale.Suez lost -5 morale,etc
Make events for Entente like : Koningsburg Captured +5 morale,Koningsburg Lost -5 morale,etc.

Make events for Etnic Unrest in Home for Austria Hungary To become more realistic,adding more dissent.

Add events of Panic for all nations,like,if the Russians take Koningsburg,add a event for Germany to call emergency reserves,the same for the Russians in the Germans take misnk,and the French if the germans reach the gates of Paris.

 

[Augustulus91]

I would also like to see some changes in the 1914 scenario. It's by far the one i play the most.
An earlier start date, and incorporation of the balkan wars and civil uprisings would be great!

 

[Gukpa]

I would also like to see some changes in the 1914 scenario. It's by far the one i play the most.
An earlier start date, and incorporation of the balkan wars and civil uprisings would be great!

Yes .In 1914 AH are a time bomb,near to explode.

 

[Augustulus91]

What i really dislike is that you don't got anytime in advance of the war (let's say 2 years), to built op your country/army more according to your wishes.
That's why i always join the war on a later date.

 

[Limith]

In my few hands off games, I never see the USSR being formed in WWI...is it just me? During internal testing, I kept getting consistently different results than another team member, so I'm doubting my personal tests. Dunno...I have weird luck with RNG.

 

[Gukpa]

Translating in three languages:
This Scenario Need Realism!
Este Cenário PRecisa de Realismo!
Ovaj scenarij treba realizam!

 

[Gort11]

What i really dislike is that you don't got anytime in advance of the war (let's say 2 years), to built op your country/army more according to your wishes.
That's why i always join the war on a later date.

Being able to start earlier would be a huge buff to the Russians (they start completely out of position and have to overload their TC for months to get into a good battle line) and a great big penalty to the Central Powers who otherwise have a tech advantage over the Entente.

This would have to be balanced for, perhaps more IC for Germany and AH.

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Another thing I've noticed with the British in WW1 is that they do not deploy anywhere near the same number of men as they did historically. By 1918, the British army had four million men. Using our current system of 13,000 men per division, that's more than 300 divisions! Has anyone seen anywhere near that many in the game?