How is the Byzantine Empire going function? It has Improved a lot in CK2 recently. Hope it approves upon that and doesnt go back to how it was at CK2 launch basic feudalism.
Imperial Government?
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I think the devs forgot about the Byzantines not being feudal until it's too late to create a unique government at launch. So expect a paid DLC in the future.
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The devs didn't like how the system was basically feudal plus and want to make a proper imperial government post launch
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That's a maybe.
It is annoying that we are going to have pay extra for a DLC just to play a proper Byzantine Imperial government.
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So mod it in or just deal with the structures of feudalism and ignore the difference. It's hardly make-or-break for the Byzantines. We also have no idea what sort of unique events they may have to make up for it.
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Its not a maybe, the devs outright stated it in the government dev diary and paying for something good is bettter than them half assing it and ending up with the same mess as CK2
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You are going to pay for it anyways ... I’m glad they focused on the three govts they did, even as a fan of the ERE. I wouldn’t want to play a proper ERE with Tribal and Clan govts nonexistent. Plus, the Imperial system will need to interact with Feudalism to mimic Byzantine influence in the Levant, for example. To do it right will take time, they shouldn’t take too long though as the Italian peninsula will be a far more interesting place with a functioning ERE.
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They said whenever in the future they want to do it right. But that is not a confirmation that we will definetly end up with an Imperial government in the game. It remains to be seen if the devs can solve a problem they couldn't for CK2.
I know. I just wish we don't have to pay for it in a DLC, and it could have been part of the game upon release. It will rather pay for a Byzantine flavour pack that enhances the Byzantine gameplay, while making Byzantine Imperial government free to any players of CK3.
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It's not 100% vanilla feudalism. The devs have alluded to both the HRE and Byzantium having their own variants of elective succession, at least. And with the new Feudal Contract system, they could still differentiate Byzantine lords from feudal lords even without a proper Imperial/Bureaucratic government.
It's not perfect, but I doubt Byzantium will play the same as, say, France or England, even at launch.
It's not perfect, but I doubt Byzantium will play the same as, say, France or England, even at launch.
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Have they really alluded towards that? So far I've only seen confirmation for that the HRE will recieve a unique election succession at launch, I believe.
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Yeah, they didn't say they'll do anything special for the Byzantines upon release.
Found the original quote I was thinking of, from the Governments Dev Diary, and in retrospect I may have been reading too much into it.
I was assuming that an Imperial Military Elective would fall under "a handful of cultural variants" as it could more or less be a reskin and minor tweeking of the Princely Elective. But you're right, that's not "Byzantium will have a unique form of succession." My bad.
No worries, it was not a totally unreasonable assumption to make. They did in fact confirm in a later dev post in that very thread that the Byzantines will NOT get anything unique succession wise at release.
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Sure it does, we're guaranteed sales (both basegame and the DLC when they 'fix' it) so the manhours are better spent on inane shit to attract new people.
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There's no guarantee it will be in the paid DLC part, it could very likely come out in the free patch portion of each cycle.
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Hopefully. Although I do not want to raise my hopes, as the devs did lock certain features behind paid DLC content like retinues with CK2.
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That's fair. On that note I believe I recall seeing somewhere one of the devs talking about Men at Arms and how they didn't want to have a repeat of Retinues, in that it was DLC locked and a bit too restrictive to build at times. So hopefully the ERE being so pivotal in this time they will follow that thinking and make a proper government free.
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