'Imperial Gamble' - Introduction to an alt-history mod

[Kung Zog]

An implementation of the New Culture Movement would be interesting (jumping between ideas): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Culture_Movement
A democratic and modern China!

On the topic of America, please don't add a Civil War in the U.S. Let Kaiserreich have that fun

 

[tuore]

I won't add civil war to the US, don't worry. But some other local conflict, like a Mexican-American war, could be interesting.

 

[gooy]

does it have to start in 1936? if it's a DH addon it could also start earlier like at the end of the war, or in 1920s. the interwar period seems to have a lot of options, so making it playable could be more fun than just fixing it up till 1936.

[btw a kaiserreich scenario starting in 1919 could also be fun ]

 

[tuore]

does it have to start in 1936? if it's a DH addon it could also start earlier like at the end of the war, or in 1920s. the interwar period seems to have a lot of options, so making it playable could be more fun than just fixing it up till 1936.

[btw a kaiserreich scenario starting in 1919 could also be fun ]

An earlier scenario requires some more work. You have to adjust the technologies, and that is a painful process. I thought that using 1936 is the easiest solution.

 

[chepaeff]

A peace such as the "peace" between Cummunist and Nationalist China might be in place. If the Bolsheviks fortify themself in the mountains harassing the russians they might survive for a long time. Especially if they get support from countries who wants to keep Russia weak (Ottomans?)

Edit: Short description of this new ideology?

China's example is not working here, since country have been in permanent war and was divided for tens of years. The only reason Mao wasn't smashed is that Chiang Kaishek had numerous cliques to deal with. RCW is completely different, there are basically two major powers. Proceeding from RL Civil War whites just like bolsheviks would serially eliminate all opponents and crash bolsheviks in the end. Whites tried to make such "fortresses" but it failed

 

[gooy]

but in RCW here there could be more powers. if soviets never get so succesful as in OTL maybe the anarchists or SR's won't join them. whites were not a uniform block either, every single commander could seek his own goals.

and what about the czech legion?

 

[It'satrap!]

yay makhno ukraine!

Hrmm this show's promise! It certainly would be interesting to add a third faction to the Russian Civil war.

 

[CylonAndrew]

Well, we need to create some changes to the Americas to keep things interesting there. How about Canada declaring itself free and snatching Newfoundland?

We asked nicely for independence and newfoundland. Seriously, we are like the only country to gain shit by politely asking!
=D

 

[tuore]

We asked nicely for independence and newfoundland. Seriously, we are like the only country to gain shit by politely asking!
=D

But if the British colonial empire is falling, wil they just give it up?

For Kung Zog and others, description of integralism:

Integralism or Integral Nationalism is an ideology which considers the nation to be an organic unity. Integralism defends social differentiation and hierarchy with cooperation between the social classes. Integralism defends trade unionism and corporatism. Integralist nations are totalitarian and the government controls this "organic unity".

 

[CylonAndrew]

actually, it had nothing to do with us aquiring new land, Newfoundland was actually independent until 1932 when they volentarily joined with Britain, and then it became Canada's 10th province in 1949. It was more of a burden to anyone and they could not sustain themselves on their own.

 

[tuore]

So, the next part of the timeline will cover 1917-1920. Suggest all kinds of events that did/might have happened then, and I'll write them to the update.

 

[Hax]

Why not add a war between Argentine and UK about Falkland Islands?
If Argentine takes the control of the islands a peace event chain should come and let UK make peace.

 

[unmerged(130734)]

Hungary shouldn't get Slovakia, but the territory in this picture. Why? The peace treaty after ww1 was the harshest of the treaties made with the central powers - more then 2/3 (!) of her territory and around 3,5 million ethnic Hungarians. With Austria having Bohemia, I can't see why Hungary shouldn't have the land which is populated by ethnic Hungarians - these borders were the justest imho.

 

[tuore]

Thanks for the map. But what about Slovakia? Giving it to Austria makes funny borders.

E: Here's a map closest to the borders in that map:

How does it look?

 

[tuore]

Another thing: I was looking at real-life events of the interwar, and found this SSNP party. All Arab-Fascist parties have been more or less similar to integralism, and the Greater Syria might be a good event. When the Arab revolts occur, SSNP might coup and pursue their goals to form Greater Syria. Thus Integralism forms in the Middle East. The party was formed in 1932, so it means that Ottomans first have to collapse, then maybe in '33 or '34, SSNP coups Syria and expands.

 

[coorta88]

@Tuore : In this alternative reality ( with Bohemia still controlled by Austria ) I doubt that Slovakia would remain independent, so I suggest adding it to Austria ( since we would surely seek protection from Budapest in Vienna either way....). Or you can make it puppet state of Russia ( with this man as a ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Konstantinovich_of_Russia ) king - in our reality he was offered to become king of new Czechoslovakian kingdom by members of czech and slovak assembly in Russia in 1914 )

 

[JRHINDO]

Why didnt you make Czecoslovakia?

 

[tuore]

Why didnt you make Czecoslovakia?

Because Hungary got Slovakia. I must rethink it now if Slovakia won't be ceded to Hungary.

 

[I Killed Kenny]

Because Hungary got Slovakia. I must rethink it now if Slovakia won't be ceded to Hungary.

Galiciaslovakia?

 

[tuore]

Galiciaslovakia?

How likely is that? And I would call it Galicia-Slovakia, with a dash in the middle.

E: Also, if we are adding anarchists to the game, I'll rename the ideologies like this:


National Socialist to Totalitarian Autocrat
Fascist to Integralist
Paternal Autocrat to Conservatism/Autocrat
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Left-Wing Radical to Anarchist
Leninist to Bolshevik
Stalinist to Totalitarian Socialist