We need at least one democracy so that would be a nice idea. ^^ Frankly, every country does not need to be radically different. Some countries, England for example, might be one of does "normal" countries.
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Syria the state, that is - technically, it is in Syria already, it is just that the break-away government of the Ottoman province of Syria haven't extended its authority over all of the province yet.
Indeed. To be entirely honest, I'd actually like to see Germany as one of the 'normal' countries. After all, in OTL it was one of the extreme countries (to say the least), and, well, moderate republican Germany isn't exactly something that has been used often in HOI mods. The timeline is vague (this is not an attack against tuore, mind, just a note on the merits of the style of presentation) enough that it can still allow for Germany - barely or not - dodging the bullet of persistent authoritarian governing...
I was planning on having the Weimar Germany last until 1936. What happens after that is depending on the player.
How about:
The Integralist French government wishes to expand it's colonial empire to increase the prestige and power of France. France uses the political instability of the English colonies to attempt to swoop in and sieze most of Afria or what about the French in Quebec? The British are then forced to decide to cave in to attempt to appease the French or go to war. Perhaps unrest in Egypt against the Christian populace there or French Canadens in Quebec could be the pretext?
If England caves in either situation:
1. Allow the French to "intervene" in Egypt in defense of the Copts (make up something going on and remember that the English are no longer guaranteeing Egypt's independence).
OR if you want to use Quebec as a pretext:
2. Free Quebec as a independent country OR Allow Integralist France to out-right annex Quebec.
Generally the English should go to war, but perhaps they might be inclined to sacrifice Egypt than go to war (maybe 10-15% of allowing the French to take Egypt), but the English AI should probably always want to keep Quebec.
Another idea would perhaps create an incident between Ireland and England. Perhaps the Irish would see pro-Catholic Integralist France as a protector after they gain independence. Suppose an assasination attempt on the Royal family by the IRA or nasty terrorist plot over northern Ireland (Franz Ferdinand style)? The English then might be tempted to declare war on the Irish if they refuse to crack down on the IRA/ meet certain demands.
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Sounds all right. But should this happen before 1936, or after that (as a possible ingame way for a war to trigger)?
Also, how does the chinese protests leading to british colonial collapse sound?
Also, how does the chinese protests leading to british colonial collapse sound?
The chinese incident should happen in late 1936, the egypt/quebec incident should happen in 1937 or 38 that gives the French Integralist gov some time to indoctrinate the people and build their armies.
I agree, that way a French player or English player would have some time to react and plan.
For the colonial events for the British, they should begin in China and spread outward depending on the British reaction. If the British cave in (perhaps this should be more than likely), then other events may be triggered across the globe. Perhaps if the British player cracks down, which might result in Japan or China intervening or a large rebellion, then other colonial rebellions would be less likely or less strong.
If the British decide to cave in and give the chinese colonies over to China or Japan (maybe giving it to Japan would result in less rebellions?) then other colonies may take notice. Perhaps each colonial region will present the British with various challenges? Some where the populations immediately take up arms (anarchist movements?), some where the local elites attempt to negotiate and others which remain loyal. The British could respond by granting independence, delaying independence (negotiation) or cracking down. Generally the British should choose the latter two choices, which stains their resources and hurts their image abroad.
Also it the Brits choose to delay independence the colonies should attempt to request independence again after a few decades or at the end of your ATL's WW2 (or Franco-British war)? Again the Brits may choose to grant independence, stall for more time, or crack down. Depending on the country the Brits should choose the former two options.
In colonies where the Brits cracked down in the 1930's, the independence movements will bide their time. They may stay quiet for awhile, but once the war breaks out they may rise in revolt again or demand concessions.
Also when will the mod actually start? 1936 isnt a good start anymore.
I suggest 1934 with the coup by the french integralists! Then it will be a downward spiral for the world!
I suggest 1934 with the coup by the french integralists! Then it will be a downward spiral for the world!
Tuore what program are you using to colour the DH map with? Paint doesn't work well at all with it unlike with older blank maps (HoI2, CK etc.).
I'm using Photoshop. It's a very complicated process: I have at least 5 different layers. One is the water texture, one is the borders, one is the nation colours (layer style multiply so that it shows the provinces through), and one is the blank province map.
It should be possible to replicate it with GIMP. The main thing is to have 2 different layers, one blank province map and one slightly transparent (or layer style multiply) where you draw the colors.
Unfortunately simple paint bucket doesn't work.
i know that there is here no CSA, but anarchist USA, that just cant. Like a fascist Swiss, it just cant.
And give some area to Romania, in trade for help to Ukraine.
France could never cross the atlantic, or they must built a huge fleet to fight the royal navy. Quebec is far away.
"Complicated"
If he's using Paint, I'd say it is a complicated process.
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^ SPAM wanna change work? choose one of the work links for russia! yay russia so full of work for everyone! just chooose
i just couldnt stop myself... i cant believe there exist suxh bots nowadays...
anyway i see the mod is getting shape and it makes it interesting
i once thought of a mod where there would be only european empires with nothing anticollonial had happened, with china devided between the 4 empires, japan isolated, brasil being still portugal, usa devided between 5 empires as well
i wanted to contribute into greece, i hope i'm not to lat to add my penny
claims (softcores), light blue
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ParisPeace-Venizelos-Map.png
posible french (pink) and italian presence (green) (if not already denied)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TreatyOfSevres_(corrected).PNG
possible armenia/armenian uprising (bronze)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TreatyOfSevres_(corrected).PNG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Asie_Mineure_statistique_officielle_d1914.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Ethnicturkey1911.jpg
kurdistan with claims (bronze)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kurdish-inhabited_area_by_CIA_(1992).jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Ethnicturkey1911.jpg
Syria with claim (light bronze) just for the fact that if turkey was weaker, or french moved further, syria could claim a bit more)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TreatyOfSevres_(corrected).PNG
the question mark in macedonia is because, do macedons count as greeks or serbs, and did greece wanted it more than serbia?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=588374&page=55
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ParisPeace-Venizelos-Map.png
the white border is for possible LoN territory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TreatyOfSevres_(corrected).PNG
Greek nationality presence (possible hardcores) (dark blue)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Location_greek_ancient.png <- before ww2 there was o major relocation except that of catherine the great in ukraine(Russian Empire), so i believe this was rather up to date before early XXcent.
http://www.rootsworld.com/griko/ <- before mussolini there was no census, so there could be more than what remained in 1980
The point is, Greeks by being stronger they could assume position Italy had, and thanks to having borders with weak countries, not superior like Germany and France that Italy has, Greece could and would probably go for a major conquest, mostly Asia, maybe something in Africa too. Probably could grab some land from Spain during revolution and i heard someone speaking of revolution in Italy, so "Greater Greece"(GG could be taken back from Rome
Overpowered Greece with teritories on two continents would be very important partner for every side. Could trade with Germans extending their sphere of influence well into Middle East, Mediterranean and Africa in exchange of assistance, could trade with Russia for military acces and resources, and with Britain, bergaining on how much should British pay Greece so it would not side with any of the above.
^ SPAM wanna change work? choose one of the work links for russia! yay russia so full of work for everyone! just chooose
i just couldnt stop myself... i cant believe there exist suxh bots nowadays...
anyway i see the mod is getting shape and it makes it interesting
i once thought of a mod where there would be only european empires with nothing anticollonial had happened, with china devided between the 4 empires, japan isolated, brasil being still portugal, usa devided between 5 empires as well
i wanted to contribute into greece, i hope i'm not to lat to add my penny
claims (softcores), light blue
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ParisPeace-Venizelos-Map.png
posible french (pink) and italian presence (green) (if not already denied)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TreatyOfSevres_(corrected).PNG
possible armenia/armenian uprising (bronze)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TreatyOfSevres_(corrected).PNG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Asie_Mineure_statistique_officielle_d1914.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Ethnicturkey1911.jpg
kurdistan with claims (bronze)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kurdish-inhabited_area_by_CIA_(1992).jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Ethnicturkey1911.jpg
Syria with claim (light bronze) just for the fact that if turkey was weaker, or french moved further, syria could claim a bit more)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TreatyOfSevres_(corrected).PNG
the question mark in macedonia is because, do macedons count as greeks or serbs, and did greece wanted it more than serbia?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=588374&page=55
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ParisPeace-Venizelos-Map.png
the white border is for possible LoN territory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TreatyOfSevres_(corrected).PNG
Greek nationality presence (possible hardcores) (dark blue)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Location_greek_ancient.png <- before ww2 there was o major relocation except that of catherine the great in ukraine(Russian Empire), so i believe this was rather up to date before early XXcent.
http://www.rootsworld.com/griko/ <- before mussolini there was no census, so there could be more than what remained in 1980
The point is, Greeks by being stronger they could assume position Italy had, and thanks to having borders with weak countries, not superior like Germany and France that Italy has, Greece could and would probably go for a major conquest, mostly Asia, maybe something in Africa too. Probably could grab some land from Spain during revolution and i heard someone speaking of revolution in Italy, so "Greater Greece"(GG
could be taken back from Rome Overpowered Greece with teritories on two continents would be very important partner for every side. Could trade with Germans extending their sphere of influence well into Middle East, Mediterranean and Africa in exchange of assistance, could trade with Russia for military acces and resources, and with Britain, bergaining on how much should British pay Greece so it would not side with any of the above.
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In regards to Ukranian revolt from Russia. Perhaps they did so with tacit Rumanian support which they attained through the promise of Besserbaria (Moldova) being ceded to them after losing it at an earlier point?
If not perhaps have Rumania attempt to take advantage of the newly formed and weak Ukraine?
If not perhaps have Rumania attempt to take advantage of the newly formed and weak Ukraine?
I wouldn't call Ukraine weak. They have the strongest military of all the revolting countries.
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Yes, compared to Paint that sounds quite complicated. When Torres gave out the blank map I wished the provinces were all just blank/white and didn't have this darker area closer to the province's borders. Completely fucks up the Paint method.
Yes, compared to Paint that sounds quite complicated. When Torres gave out the blank map I wished the provinces were all just blank/white and didn't have this darker area closer to the province's borders. Completely fucks up the Paint method.
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