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This is my first AAR. I am Flandres in the Mongol EMpire scenario, which starts in 1150 though this AAR does not start until 1244. Normal/varying aggressiveness (higher when I get bored). BTW, what would a good site be to host my screenshots?

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"All hail the Most August Marguerite, Queen of Flandres and Lothringen, Holy Empress of Rome, Duchess of Flandres, Normandy, Anjou, Piemont, and Savoie, Countess of Flandres, Zeeland, Champagne, Kleves, Picardy, Nevers, Brabant, Gelre, the Imperial Franche Comte, and Lorraine, and the Great Dauphin." Uttered simultaneously in French and Dutch on August 1, 1244, the date of the final Imperial surrender, these words described clearly the most powerful woman and perhaps the most powerful person at all in the world.

When did the Flemish ascent to greatness truly begin? Some say around 1150, when Count Thiery began the centralization and expansion of the Flemish towns. Others say 1185, when Count Philippe the Warlike forced the French King, also named Philippe, to promote him to a Duke and give him the Counties of Picardy and Nevers. Still others say 1206, when Duchess Jeanne made the same French King acknowledge Flandres as an entirely independent Kingdom and cut all feudal ties. Few, however, would say 1244, when Queen Marguerite, Jeanne's niece, signed the treaty formalizing her and her late aunt's crushing defeat of the Holy Roman Empire. In this Treaty of Augsburg, Emperor Friedrich II was forced to abdicate as Emperor and pass the title to Marguerite. Furthermore, the title would forever belong to the Kings and Queens of Flandres. Also, all lands not under direct Hohenstauffen control would be removed from the Empire, as well as those Hohenstauffen lands separated from Hohenstauffen itself by independent states. Friedrich would still be allowed to govern the Hohenstauffen lands, but only as a vassal of the Empress. All French and Dutch speaking Hohenstauffen towns, essentially the County of Lorraine, would come under direct Flemish rule. Lastly, as the new controller of the seat of the old Kingdom of Lothringen and much of its lands, Marguerite would be recognized as the Queen of the Middle Kingdom as well (much to the annoyance of her Burgundian allies).

After the signing of the Treaty, the Queen called the armies of Flandres to the capital, Gent, for reorginization and enlargement into the largest peacetime army thus far in Flemish history--60,000 men. By April of 1245, the Army of 60,000 had been formed, and split into 7 Regiments spread throughout Flandres.

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Next: a quick summary of Flemish history, 1150-1244. Also, if I can find a place to host them, screenshots from 1245.
 

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I'm looking forward for this one, civman2000. BTW, there are several threads discussing screenshots techniques, even hosting advices.

Good luck!:)

EDIT: don't forget to register at the LibrAARy.
 

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Very good. Look forward to this AAR, as well as the ME scenario(of which I am dling right now)
 

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Early Flemish History: Part 1 (1150-1194)

In 1150, Flandres was a small county in the northwest corner of the French Kingdom. Its only real importance was as a commercial center, not a political entity. That year, however, Count Thiery decided to change that. He announced his dream of Flandres becoming a great centralized empire, encompassing all French and Dutch peoples.

He quickly began centralizing many of the institutions within Flandres, but was a bit slower expanding externally. In 1156, together with France, he declared war on the Counties of Blois and Champagne, beginning the War of Blois. In 1157, France annexed Blois and the war ended. For the next nine years Thiery continued his centralization programs, including the formal annexation of Zeeland, bringing it directly under his control. In 1166, he declared war on Champagne again, hoping to gain control of its rich trading towns. In 1168, the War of Champagne ended with the annexation of the entire county into Flandres. Unfortunately, near the end of the war, Count Thiery died, and his son, Philippe the Warlike, became Count.

Philippe did not honor the name historians attached to him immediately, however. For the first ten years of his reign, the Flemish people lived in peace. In 1178, however, he changed that, with a very bold move: he declared war on the Empire. This war is known as the War of Bohemia (also the 1st German War), for Philippe claimed to be defending the independence of Bohemia, which had recently been annexed by the Empire. Unlike the Wars of Blois and Champagne, this war was long and difficult. Exhausted by the demands of the war, Flandres abandoned her allies and made peace with the Germans in 1181 in exchange for the County of Kleves.

Despite having barely won the war and been weakened economically, Philippe went to war again 3 years later, this time against France. THis war went much better, and within two years the French agreed to humiliating peace: the King would only be allowed to keep Paris and the surrounding area; the rest of his land would be split between Flandres and her BUrgundian allies. Even more humiliating, the King was forced to promote Count Philippe the a Duke. This war is known as the Ducal War or the 1st French War. Shortly after the end of the war, the Pope called for a crusade to liberate Jerusalem, and Philippe pledged 1500 men and 4 ships to the cause.

In 1191, the Empire annexed the County of Brabant. Philippe used this as an excuse to resume the hostilities that had ended in 1181. This war, the War of Brabant (2nd German War), was shorter but just as difficult as the War of Bohemia. In 1192, though, the Empire accepted defeat, and ceded Brabant to Philippe. Two years later, in 1194, Duke Philippe the Warlike died and his son, Baldwin IX, ascended to the Flemish throne. The period of short, petty wars with the Empire for small amounts of land ended, and a new, more diplomatically focused period began.

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Next: Early Flemish History Part 2 (1194-1244)

Screenshots from 1245:
1245polshrunk.txt

1245dipshrunk.txt
 
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You've firmed yourself as a regional power. Glad to see it! Now... what are the goals to your AAR?:cool:
 

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My goal coming into the game was Thiery's dream: Conquer all state culture provinces. After that, I'm not sure. In any case, currently I'd have to forceannex 3 countries to do that (Holland and Friesland are vassals of the Empire and France is a vassal of England though their relations have gotten down to -180 or so) and I've been trying to keep my BB down even though I'm playing on normal. Strangely, my BB limit is only 26!
 

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Originally posted by civman2000
Strangely, my BB limit is only 26!

IIRC the "older" you are in the game, the higher your BB limit. Well, you are in the 1200's, so you are "newer" than in 1419, thus getting a lower BB limit.
 

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Mongolian Empire scenario?

What exactly is this? This AAR sounds intriguing, but I am somewhat confused by the scenario itself.
 

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See the modifications forum. Essentially it's a scenario that goes from 1150 to 1419. It's currently still in beta testing, but it works pretty well even if some events are missing/don't quite work (notably the 4th crusade) and there are limited monarchs/leaders. I'm not exactly sure why it's called the Mongol Empire Scenario, because the mongols are far from its only or even perhaps its main focus.
 

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Early Flemish History: Part 2 (1194-1244):

Before diplomacy would reign supreme, however, Flandres had one more war to fight. In 1202, King John of England's incompetence lost him most of his French lands. While England had always been too strong for Flandres to attack, Duke Baldwin used this as an opportunity to seize the lands he had always wanted but was not strong enough to get from England. Now, he could get them by attacking France, whose army had been only been supproted by the manpower of Paris itself until a few months ago. On November 1, 1202, shortly after refusing to join Venice's anti-Roman "Crusade," Baldwin declared war on France and her ally Brittany. Within five years, the Flemish armies crushed France and Brittany, and the peace was crushing as well. Duchess Jeanne (who had succeeded Baldwin after his unfortunate death in 1205) annexed the Duchies of Normandie and Anjou, brought Brittany under her suzerainty, and cut all feudal ties with France. No longer part of the French Kingdom, Flandres was declared a new Kingdom of its own, with Jeanne as its first Queen.

Under Jeanne's rule, the newly proclaimed Kingdom flourished. Economically and commercially, it came to dominate all of France as well as much of Spain and some of Italy. The Kingdom continued to expand, but diplomatically rather than by force. In 1213, the County of Gelre agreed to join the Kingdom, on the condition that the County of Saxonia would keep its independence. Eleven years later, the Union of Arelate, consisting of the Franche Comte, the Duchy of Savoy, and the Dauphine also joined the Kingdom, giving it a Mediterranean coast and port. For 15 years after this, the Kingdom worked on internal development, building great refineries in Champagne and the Dauphine.

Then, in 1239, Queen Jeanne abruptly ended this golden age and declared war on the Empire! This war is now known as the Imperial War (or 3rd German War). We have already discussed the glorious gains made by the Flemish in this war, but in the beginning the war was not so easy. The Empire had been weakened by nearly 40 years of war with the other Empire in Constantinople that it continued to call "the 4th Crusade." However, with the help of its Sileasian allies, it put up quite a fight. For three years, as most of the Flemish armies besieged the northwest corner of Germany, in the south the Empire defeated Flandres in several battles. Finally, after two years of fighting, a separate peace was made with Silesia and the Flemish crushed the German armies with the main army. For the next four years the Flemish rampaged and besieged the rest of teh Empire, stealing the maps of the East the Germans had in turn stolen from the Romans. In 1244, shortly before the signing of the Treaty of Augsburg, Queen Jeanne died and Marguerite ascended to the throne. Eight months later, the Imperial Era of Flandres began...
 

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Well, actually, I'm more interested in the Golden Horde....Where is it?
Well, the mongols are second in score, but they haven't entered my maps yet. I highly doubt the EU2 engine is very competent at showing the huge and vast Mongol expansion without a ton of "freebie" events that annex countries. Thus while the mongols may eventually get on my maps, whcih go as far as slightly east of persia, they will probably never reach russia.
 

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The Years Between the Wars (1245-1261): The Postwar Recession

After the end of the Imperial War, the top priority for the Queen and Empress was the economy, particularly the mercantile section thereof. During the war, Flemish traders had lost their markets in Italy and their dominance of the great commerical centers controlled by Flandres itself, Champagne and the core of Flandres. The primary reason for this had been instability: until the very end of the war, the country never completely recovered from the suddenness and lack of provocation at the beginning of the war, and a series of huge floods in Zeeland caused by record rains only worsened the situation. During the war, Queen Jeanne and later Marguerite did take a few actions to try to revive commerce, including paying large gifts to nobles and the people to regain stability and confidence and the subsidizing fo the construction of a major refinery in Besancon to join those already existing in Reims and Valence, but it would not be completed until 1246. However, these overall had little effect.

When the war ended, Marguerite began devoting nearly all of the Kingdom's resources to helping the merchants. In January of 1246, just after the opening of the Besancon refinery, Marguerite ordered for the standard Flemish judicial and monetary institutions to be installed in the newly acquired County of Lorraine. She also encouraged merchants and businessmen to be more inventive and innovative. For nearly three years, however, the situation actually worsened reather than improving. Then, in the autumn of 1248, the economy boomed. The merchants drove the foreign competition out of Flandres and Champagne, and even regained ground in Italy! Alas, it would last no more than a year. In September of 1249, the Flemish were driven out of the markets again.

1250 began a new decade, and the Queen took a new approach to the recession for the new decade. Early in the year, with the financial aid of the government, the Flemish merchant guilds developed new competitive techniques. The government also developed some new infrastructural theories, which were at the core of Marguerite's plan. Rather than focusing on the traditional Flemish good of wine, she decided to put the government's money into the cloth industry. Within two years, with Royal support, cloth manufactories were popping up throughout the province of Artois. Once again, it seemed that Marguerite had succeeded: by 1252 the merchants were back in business. One and a half years later, they were monopolizing the Flemish markets and moving into Spain and Italy again. This boom was longer and more successful than that of 1248, but like the earlier one, it ended before completely reviving the economy. As the first snows fell in 1255, the first Flemish merchants fell, and by the beginning of 1256 things were nearly as bad as they had been in 1250. This was partially due to the outbreak of war with Provence (more on that later; it wasn't very significant overall).

These problems continued more or less unabated until 1257, when the Crown once again decided to intervene. First, the Queen subsidized a project to expand the cloth business into Savoie. Second, she took some rights traditionally held by the nobility and gave them to the merchants. This last action, while helping the merchants some, was quite destabilizing; for the nobility boycotted the marchgnats and tried to block them from using their new powers for over a year until things cooled down a bit. In 1260, Marguerite conceded defeat: the new reforms had done nothing. Now she took a radical and very novel apporach: she declared an embargo of the County of Holland, whose merchants dominated the Flemish markets while the locals failed to make gains. At first, this seemed to only worsen things, but by the end of the summer of 1261, the Hollanders had been driven out and the Flemish once again had a stable, strong control of the markets.

Within five months, however, the outbreak of a major war would call Marguerite's focus away from the economy, and many of the gains from the recovery of 1261 would soon be lost...

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Next: The Years Between the Wars (1245-1261): Postwar Diplomacy and Politics

I've hit a snag: I keep getting a CtD in January 15/16 1264. Unless the next scenario patch fixes it or I find some other way around it, this AAR may be almost over :(.
 
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Despite those years when you were (re)building your economy, I see oncoming pain... if not for you, for the enemies of the Empire of Flanders!
 

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Screenies shrunk.

A few screenies from the "major war" that started in 1261:

The Battle of Arras:
1stbatarras.txt


The Battle of Paris:
1stbatparis.txt


The Battle of Torino:
1stbattorino.txt


The Treaty of Tours:
1263treatyoftours.txt


I hope to have the next segment in tomorrow or sunday and the segment on the war (which I can't finish up because of the CtDs!) by Tuesday
 

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I like your screenies. Really nice, I must say!

I hope you can get your CTDs fixed. Sometimes they're caused by contradictions on the savefile... ask for help on the bug or support forum, and see if the Gods of Paradox help you!:cool: