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EDIT REQUEST:
indus(539), kalat(538),sinom(540), gujarat(547), something(659)
change of culture to common colonial.
and if i can demand cores than that too.
indus(539), kalat(538),sinom(540), gujarat(547), something(659)
change of culture to common colonial.
and if i can demand cores than that too.
kwfinn said:
make me cry, you heartbreaker
the badboy role doesn't fit you well considering your affection to gay agreements.
Guys, stay calm - such low quality arguments will not make this thread more interesting nor game will be funnier... :wacko:
Faello said:
Agreed, I've just listen to him bitch for three straight weeks. Hell, even a woman takes off three weeks of a month. Not Javy.
Javier (Pibe) said:
If only I've had von Frundsberg during this session and anticipated this second french assault by joining Venice/BB alliance against Austria almost two years after the first one with a pretty bad stability in Paris.
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Faello said:
Signed!
Add cores to;
Manu - 1484
Atalaya - 1483
Montana - 1482
Cajamarca - 165
Cartagena - 158
Tehuacan - 32
Aires - 223
The canary islands - 817
-Historical events: Purposefully avoiding an event such as Spanish Bankrupcy by getting rid of a few key provinces will not be tolerated. If you want the gold, suffer the price. Events generating vassalage on a player will be enforced like the vassal rule above: cannot be broken before 20 years and a war.
does this include civil war for england , bancrupty of france , muslim tech for ottos and times of trouble and other crappy events for russia ect ect ? kinda unfair for poor spain if you force him to endure bancruptys if the rest can avoid bad effects of there events or avoid there events entire
does this include civil war for england , bancrupty of france , muslim tech for ottos and times of trouble and other crappy events for russia ect ect ? kinda unfair for poor spain if you force him to endure bancruptys if the rest can avoid bad effects of there events or avoid there events entire
The majority of those events occur no matter what choices the player makes and come with penalties for the lighter choices, the bankruptcy events are there to even the playing field for gold mines that essentially guarantee superpower status permanently (if used well) for Spain, and are completly avoidable. 1k free gold income in the blink of an eye has nothing to do with skill or ingenuity, it's a free ticket for all Spanish players with any sense, something no other state can take advantage of. Now, weathering the bankruptcy events and coming out viable and capable afterwards, that takes skill.
Tem, edit: 900 ducats from the Imperial treasury in Moscow to the Swedish Monarchs holding account in Gotland please .
Tem, edit: 900 ducats from the Imperial treasury in Moscow to the Swedish Monarchs holding account in Gotland please
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K'shar said:The majority of those events occur no matter what choices the player makes and come with penalties for the lighter choices, the bankruptcy events are there to even the playing field for gold mines that essentially guarantee superpower status permanently (if used well) for Spain, and are completly avoidable. 1k free gold income in the blink of an eye has nothing to do with skill or ingenuity, it's a free ticket for all Spanish players with any sense, something no other state can take advantage of. Now, weathering the bankruptcy events and coming out viable and capable afterwards, that takes skill.
Tem, edit: 900 ducats from the Imperial treasury in Moscow to the Swedish Monarchs holding account in Gotland please
goldmines does not guarentee superpower status , trade is way more powerful then gold will ever be
eitherway fact stil remains it is unfair treatment to force 1 event and not force other effects or events
for example france has a bancrupty event wich he can easy avoid if he takes a non historicle option in another event iirc why should he be alowed to avoid it and not spain ? france is afterall alot more powerful then spain is late game unles france screwed up he got guarenteed a strong nation with all those very strong monarchs , uberleaders and very nice mp
ottos are suposed to be declining later on to why sould they be alowed to avoid that decline by taking a stabhit and few years of rr they avoid muslim tech forever
avoiding spanish bancrupty events is not a exploit
i'm of the opinion forcing bancruptys for spain but not bad events for the rest is unfair treatment and biased play of other players including gm in england
Maybe you misunderstood: Gold=income=expansion=trade(COT)dominance=power. It's a free boost allowing one to get to heights otherwise impossible, a head start if you will.
There is a reason why the Spanish events are so harsh, there is also a reason why utilizing the game engine (without edits) they simply cannot be avoided. The French even, Ottoman one etc. can all be avoided by event decisions. If Spain wants to leave certain goldmines available to other states till after the bankruptcy event and then fight for them later it is most welcome.
Anyhow, this is not the thread to discuss the matter it was decided upon based on former rules not Tem being England (who in fact started as Austria). I do believe however, there is a hotly contested thread near by that expands on this very discussion. I may even agree with you, but for the purposes of this game it will not be adjusted.
BTW, i'm sure Tem will save Nab the trouble and conquer mexico before the events hit anyway.
There is a reason why the Spanish events are so harsh, there is also a reason why utilizing the game engine (without edits) they simply cannot be avoided. The French even, Ottoman one etc. can all be avoided by event decisions. If Spain wants to leave certain goldmines available to other states till after the bankruptcy event and then fight for them later it is most welcome.
Anyhow, this is not the thread to discuss the matter it was decided upon based on former rules not Tem being England (who in fact started as Austria
). I do believe however, there is a hotly contested thread near by that expands on this very discussion. I may even agree with you, but for the purposes of this game it will not be adjusted.BTW, i'm sure Tem will save Nab the trouble and conquer mexico before the events hit anyway.
K'shar said:Maybe you misunderstood: Gold=income=expansion=trade(COT)dominance=power. It's a free boost allowing one to get to heights otherwise impossible, a head start if you will.
There is a reason why the Spanish events are so harsh, there is also a reason why utilizing the game engine (without edits) they simply cannot be avoided. The French even, Ottoman one etc. can all be avoided by event decisions. If Spain wants to leave certain goldmines available to other states till after the bankruptcy event and then fight for them later it is most welcome.
Anyhow, this is not the thread to discuss the matter it was decided upon based on former rules not Tem being England (who in fact started as Austria
BTW, i'm sure Tem will save Nab the trouble and conquer mexico before the events hit anyway.
perhaps you misread the event
-Historical events: Purposefully avoiding an event such as Spanish Bankrupcy by getting rid of a few key provinces will not be tolerated. If you want the gold, suffer the price. Events generating vassalage on a player will be enforced like the vassal rule above: cannot be broken before 20 years and a war.
clearly says historicle events purposly avoiding events such as bancrupty of spain now i'm asking if the other events/effects are forced to this has nothing to do with a free boost early ,since spain suffers from goldinflation early and nations like france and england can take away mexico later easy anyway
infact while you talk about boost , protestant nations get +3free merchants something that makes a huge different if you don't get 12merchants without them spain on other hand has to colonise and gather huge tech costs
sorry i didn't post anything about not making it last session.
didn't had acces to the internet etc etc...
how did session go what did i missed?
didn't had acces to the internet etc etc...
how did session go what did i missed?
just checked save.
let me guess, i was ai
can i have some edits for the damage done. my fleet is decimated lost 3 provines 1 being cot (now they are indipendent countries) :wacko:
and what hapened with edits i requested before session
let me guess, i was ai
can i have some edits for the damage done. my fleet is decimated lost 3 provines 1 being cot (now they are indipendent countries) :wacko:
and what hapened with edits i requested before session
If I may add something as an economist. Gold doesn't necessarily mean bankrupcy. It is pointless for me to vote against Spanish bankrupcies because it is clearly conflict of interest even if I think they should fire. So, I will only say that I have played Spain who haven't those events and England was much more powerfull still.
grabah said:
geeez man, tell us you'll be missing so we can find sub or something like that
Instead of grabah you should have taken nick BLONAA (Beeing Late Or Not At All) :rofl: