IIRC the glorious Roman Empire didn't control the Scotland, so take the England, but leave the Scotish free! 
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I have been struggling with the whole Scottish thing in my mind. They don't exist right now. Eire owns one province while the English own everything else. My plan is to take all of it eventually, but then historically the ancient Romans didn't own that land. I don't know if I ought to release the Scots as a vassal. Decisions, decisions.
Yes; if I were you, I'd conquer it all and then release them as vassals; but, of course, you have the last word, as had the former emperors...
LordLeto- Senatorial intrigue? How....Interesting. I hadn't even thought of that!<scribbles furiously> BTW, your sig has a problem. Not the Chagatai one, the one people aren't supposed to take the wrong way. It seems to be a broken link.
nuts, ill try to fix it, its a realy important message too.
*edit* try it now.
*edit* try it now.
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LordLeto- That might have been really annoying if I hadn't had a popup ad filter! I just turned it on and stopped that.
Ive had some hilarious responses from people when they get that. I persoanly found it hilarious.
It started out funny, but it kept right on coming...faster, and faster and faster. I do have to say it was interesting.
The legions swarmed into Anglia and Wessex, obliterating the small outmoded infantry forces stationed there. Most of the English armies were in Eire, and it would be at least 3 months until they could make their presence felt back in their homeland. The empire would take full advantage of this by swarming the entire island as quickly as possible. Cavalry swept into the Midlands, Kent, and Cornwall to keep any reinforcements from forming while the sieges of London and Bristol were prosecuted as quickly as possible.
Gascogne was overrun, but the city refused to surrender, being very well supplied and the imperial navy was busy interdicting the English Isle. They wouldn’t surrender until the summer of 1545. The 5th legion was quite cavalry heavy and unfortunately the other legions on the continent were kept very busy putting down revolts in Iberia and Gaul.
Gotland rebelled, completely surprising the imperial naval squadron based there as well as the 2nd Praetorian Guard. The squadron managed to escape the docks before being destroyed by rebel cannon fire. The Guard was not so lucky and had to retreat to the highlands to regroup before they were able to slowly whittle down the rebel forces to the point that they boiled out of the highlands and slaughtered the rebels on the field. Many still holed up in the castle and it would be over a year before they were finally rooted out and the survivors impaled.
The English troops rallied and returned to England only to be met in Wales with overwhelming force. They fought bravely, as well as fiercely. It was their homeland that they were attempting to defend, but to no avail. They were crushed and scattered to the four winds, at a rather heavy price. 40,000 imperial troops were dead. The English had lost 38,000 men. The empire had lost more men, but they had more to bring into the fray.
By 1545 everything south of the Grampians were firmly under imperial control. England sued for peace. She offered Gascogne, Yorkshire, Lincoln, Kent, St. Martin, Placentia, and Gander. The empire was grateful to accept as the rebellions were spreading. Almost every province in Iberia and Gaul were in revolt. The legions were desperately spread thin putting out the rebellions and revolts as quickly as they could, however their brutality became legendary. Thousands died. Many, many thousands. The internal strife continued until 1550.
Lincoln had revolted three times and the empire lost control of the province twice before regaining total control in 1549. Kent also rebelled, but that was quickly quashed. By the end of 1552 the empire began to turn it’s attention to Venice, which had acquired quite a nice empire of her own and controlled quite a bit of central Germany. A condition that would not be allowed to persist. It was decided that guarantees of independence would be offered to numerous minor nations in the hopes that Venice would misstep and declare war on one of them.
The condition was met when Venice quickly overran one province Bavaria and annexed it ruthlessly in December of 1552. Gustav ordered 3 fleets ready to sail to the Mediterranean. One was to go to Corfu, another to Ionia, and the last to Crete. Their orders were to be ready to fight in April of 1553. Troops were loaded on each fleet to take the three islands. Ninth Legion was to prepare to march from Jylland in Holstein and then Bremen. Third Legion was to march from Hessen into Anhalt and then Sachsen. Fifth Legion was to got from Alsace into Baden and then Wurttemburg.
April 10, 1553 was the date Venice would never forget. The empire declared war upon them. The legions marched and Venetian troops began to die. The German possessions of Venice were only lightly defended. A terrible oversight on their part and one that would prove to be quite painful to them. They had lost many men in the fight for Bavaria and hadn’t seemingly bothered to bolster their armies in Germany.
Genoa, Eire, Croatia, and Kazan all honored their alliance with Venice on paper but were quick to sue for a return to status quo by the start of May.
Initially the war went quite well for the empire as Holstein was quickly taken and Bremen put under siege. Anhalt fell just as quick, and Sachsen also put under siege. Baden was cracked like a rotten walnut, and the 5th legion poured over the borders of Wurttemburg and surrounded the city just after the gates were closed. So close, and yet so far.
Ionia fell to a quick and bloody assault in May, with Crete fell in June. The two legions, the 7th and 8th were quickly transported to Venice herself. A massive naval engagement between Venice and empire lasted a week, but in the end the ships of Venice were driven off and the city was open for the taking. In a matter of speaking. There was no forces to contend with outside the city, but it refused to surrender. Even with a tremendous naval bombardment that lasted for three days coinciding with the legions bombardment of the landward side of the city didn’t make the Venetians blink. It was going to be a long siege. It was March 20, 1554
Venice had been somewhat sneaky herself. The fleet that had been defeated had traveled on and had landed troops in Languedoc. The small garrison managed to send out a plea for help. No legions were within the province at all. Roussillon was the closest place to find a legion, the 2nd. Upon hearing the news, they marched with all speed to Languedoc to fight the foe.
Unseasonably rainy weather delayed the legion until June of 1554. The Venetians were completely surprised when the 2nd legion fell on them with a fury. The cavalry almost contemptuously punched through the Venetian center and began to roll up the left flank. The infantry swarmed over the enemy lines like a horde of angry bees. The Venetians broke. Every man for himself. Running in all directions like headless chickens. They had been thoroughly routed.
The 2nd tried to pursue but they were exhausted by the march through the torrential rains and thick clinging mud of the road. The battle had taken everything they had. So the shattered Venetian army was allowed to scatter. Their baggage train had been left behind anyway.
Imagine the imperial shock when the Venetians reformed their army to besiege Limousin. The 2nd marched double time to try and finish off the job. This time, it would not be so easy. The van had a 20 mile running battle with elements of the Venetian cavalry the moment they crossed the border into Limousin. By the time the legion reached the siege works the Venetians had quit the field and melted into the forests.
The 2nd was not to be so easily lost. Trackers began the work of hunting down the missing Venetians, who were moving VERY fast. They had barely begun to terrorize Berri when the 2nd clashed with their rear guard. The Venetians fled, leaving their rear guard to die.
They tramped into Vendee, harried all the way by the 2nd’s van. The 1st legion was under order to march north from Navarra to help intercept the Venetians and complete their destruction. The Venetian fleet met with disaster in the straits of Gibraltar when a heavy summer squall separated them widely. The Gibraltar flotilla destroyed them in detail quite easily.
If the Venetians being hunted in Gaul thought they might escape by sea, they were in for vast disappointment. In fact the 1st and 2nd legions trapped them in Poitou and commenced their total obliteration in March of 1555. Corfu fell in September of the same year.
The German conquest continued to go well for the empire, with Bremen, Hannover, Sachsen, Wurzburg, and Bayern all being brought to heel by January of 1556. Venice herself fell in July of 1556. The legion in Corfu landed in Ragusa and a quick assault brought it under imperial control, and marched in Dalmatia while the victorious legion in Veneto stormed into Istria.
Milan declared war on the Empire in 1557 on October 1st. England had declared war on Venice in 1555, and for some strange reason she gave Baden to England. Which promptly lost it when Baden rebelled and declared independence in August of 1557. Venice gave up her German possessions to the empire.
The 8th legion marched back through Venice and fell upon the Milanese who were having to return to Lombardy due to the quick peace between Venice and the empire plus we got Mantua in the deal. They were decimated and no longer a force to be worried about ever again on December 25th. It wasn’t until June of 1558 that Milan fell and the entire nation was brought forcefully into the Empire.
Gascogne was overrun, but the city refused to surrender, being very well supplied and the imperial navy was busy interdicting the English Isle. They wouldn’t surrender until the summer of 1545. The 5th legion was quite cavalry heavy and unfortunately the other legions on the continent were kept very busy putting down revolts in Iberia and Gaul.
Gotland rebelled, completely surprising the imperial naval squadron based there as well as the 2nd Praetorian Guard. The squadron managed to escape the docks before being destroyed by rebel cannon fire. The Guard was not so lucky and had to retreat to the highlands to regroup before they were able to slowly whittle down the rebel forces to the point that they boiled out of the highlands and slaughtered the rebels on the field. Many still holed up in the castle and it would be over a year before they were finally rooted out and the survivors impaled.
The English troops rallied and returned to England only to be met in Wales with overwhelming force. They fought bravely, as well as fiercely. It was their homeland that they were attempting to defend, but to no avail. They were crushed and scattered to the four winds, at a rather heavy price. 40,000 imperial troops were dead. The English had lost 38,000 men. The empire had lost more men, but they had more to bring into the fray.
By 1545 everything south of the Grampians were firmly under imperial control. England sued for peace. She offered Gascogne, Yorkshire, Lincoln, Kent, St. Martin, Placentia, and Gander. The empire was grateful to accept as the rebellions were spreading. Almost every province in Iberia and Gaul were in revolt. The legions were desperately spread thin putting out the rebellions and revolts as quickly as they could, however their brutality became legendary. Thousands died. Many, many thousands. The internal strife continued until 1550.
Lincoln had revolted three times and the empire lost control of the province twice before regaining total control in 1549. Kent also rebelled, but that was quickly quashed. By the end of 1552 the empire began to turn it’s attention to Venice, which had acquired quite a nice empire of her own and controlled quite a bit of central Germany. A condition that would not be allowed to persist. It was decided that guarantees of independence would be offered to numerous minor nations in the hopes that Venice would misstep and declare war on one of them.
The condition was met when Venice quickly overran one province Bavaria and annexed it ruthlessly in December of 1552. Gustav ordered 3 fleets ready to sail to the Mediterranean. One was to go to Corfu, another to Ionia, and the last to Crete. Their orders were to be ready to fight in April of 1553. Troops were loaded on each fleet to take the three islands. Ninth Legion was to prepare to march from Jylland in Holstein and then Bremen. Third Legion was to march from Hessen into Anhalt and then Sachsen. Fifth Legion was to got from Alsace into Baden and then Wurttemburg.
April 10, 1553 was the date Venice would never forget. The empire declared war upon them. The legions marched and Venetian troops began to die. The German possessions of Venice were only lightly defended. A terrible oversight on their part and one that would prove to be quite painful to them. They had lost many men in the fight for Bavaria and hadn’t seemingly bothered to bolster their armies in Germany.
Genoa, Eire, Croatia, and Kazan all honored their alliance with Venice on paper but were quick to sue for a return to status quo by the start of May.
Initially the war went quite well for the empire as Holstein was quickly taken and Bremen put under siege. Anhalt fell just as quick, and Sachsen also put under siege. Baden was cracked like a rotten walnut, and the 5th legion poured over the borders of Wurttemburg and surrounded the city just after the gates were closed. So close, and yet so far.
Ionia fell to a quick and bloody assault in May, with Crete fell in June. The two legions, the 7th and 8th were quickly transported to Venice herself. A massive naval engagement between Venice and empire lasted a week, but in the end the ships of Venice were driven off and the city was open for the taking. In a matter of speaking. There was no forces to contend with outside the city, but it refused to surrender. Even with a tremendous naval bombardment that lasted for three days coinciding with the legions bombardment of the landward side of the city didn’t make the Venetians blink. It was going to be a long siege. It was March 20, 1554
Venice had been somewhat sneaky herself. The fleet that had been defeated had traveled on and had landed troops in Languedoc. The small garrison managed to send out a plea for help. No legions were within the province at all. Roussillon was the closest place to find a legion, the 2nd. Upon hearing the news, they marched with all speed to Languedoc to fight the foe.
Unseasonably rainy weather delayed the legion until June of 1554. The Venetians were completely surprised when the 2nd legion fell on them with a fury. The cavalry almost contemptuously punched through the Venetian center and began to roll up the left flank. The infantry swarmed over the enemy lines like a horde of angry bees. The Venetians broke. Every man for himself. Running in all directions like headless chickens. They had been thoroughly routed.
The 2nd tried to pursue but they were exhausted by the march through the torrential rains and thick clinging mud of the road. The battle had taken everything they had. So the shattered Venetian army was allowed to scatter. Their baggage train had been left behind anyway.
Imagine the imperial shock when the Venetians reformed their army to besiege Limousin. The 2nd marched double time to try and finish off the job. This time, it would not be so easy. The van had a 20 mile running battle with elements of the Venetian cavalry the moment they crossed the border into Limousin. By the time the legion reached the siege works the Venetians had quit the field and melted into the forests.
The 2nd was not to be so easily lost. Trackers began the work of hunting down the missing Venetians, who were moving VERY fast. They had barely begun to terrorize Berri when the 2nd clashed with their rear guard. The Venetians fled, leaving their rear guard to die.
They tramped into Vendee, harried all the way by the 2nd’s van. The 1st legion was under order to march north from Navarra to help intercept the Venetians and complete their destruction. The Venetian fleet met with disaster in the straits of Gibraltar when a heavy summer squall separated them widely. The Gibraltar flotilla destroyed them in detail quite easily.
If the Venetians being hunted in Gaul thought they might escape by sea, they were in for vast disappointment. In fact the 1st and 2nd legions trapped them in Poitou and commenced their total obliteration in March of 1555. Corfu fell in September of the same year.
The German conquest continued to go well for the empire, with Bremen, Hannover, Sachsen, Wurzburg, and Bayern all being brought to heel by January of 1556. Venice herself fell in July of 1556. The legion in Corfu landed in Ragusa and a quick assault brought it under imperial control, and marched in Dalmatia while the victorious legion in Veneto stormed into Istria.
Milan declared war on the Empire in 1557 on October 1st. England had declared war on Venice in 1555, and for some strange reason she gave Baden to England. Which promptly lost it when Baden rebelled and declared independence in August of 1557. Venice gave up her German possessions to the empire.
The 8th legion marched back through Venice and fell upon the Milanese who were having to return to Lombardy due to the quick peace between Venice and the empire plus we got Mantua in the deal. They were decimated and no longer a force to be worried about ever again on December 25th. It wasn’t until June of 1558 that Milan fell and the entire nation was brought forcefully into the Empire.
September 30, 1560
Gustav Vasa had died two months earlier while riding in a fox hunt on the imperial family estates in Lincoln. Erik XIV would now rule the empire. An empire at peace both internally and externally. Trade was good, and the military were in excellent form after their stellar performance against the Venetians and Milanese. All seemed to be well, and that was a sign of concern for some within the empire.
Under the reign of Gustav Vasa the senate had found itself unable to do much of anything. Vasa was too powerful and popular to try and cross. The one time they dared was mid way through his reign and the nobility purge still has many of the remaining senators shuddering in fear. The angry bellow of
“I am VASA! I WILL rule! IS THAT CLEAR? No? Well meet my headsman! I’m sure he will get your undivided attention!”
Dozens of recalcitrant senators met their fate at the headsman’s axe when they crossed the Emperor. The rest quickly learned to toe the line, or else. The coronation of Erik caused many to think that perhaps the time had come to regain much of their lost powers. It was only a matter of time before that powder keg exploded.
Relations with Bohemia had slipped greatly due to a series of border disputes about the territory of Ansbach that dated back decades to when Bavaria owned the land. Now that the empire owned it, we had to deal with provocations from the Bohemians. Finally it was going to come to war. The empire would no longer tolerate Bohemia demanding land it had no right to claim.
October 17, 1561 the empire declared war on Bohemia. The 6th legion swamped the border defenders and was quickly followed by the 5th and 7th legions.
Lithuania, Poland, Cyprus, The Knights, Wallachia, and Mecklenburg quickly came to the aid of Bohemia. Cyprus, Lithuania, The Knights and Wallachia all decided by January to sue for peace in January of 1561. The empire had conquered all of Bohemia except for the capitol. Mecklenburg was only a few months away from falling. The Poles were being pushed out of Germany one province at a time.
Austria declared war on Bohemia, with Poland and Mecklenburg quickly coming to the defense of the Bohemians. Austria marched troops to Mecklenburg and took over the siege on June 30th of 1562. They immediately began a costly assault on the city and took it by July 6th. They annexed the city, stealing it right out from under the empire. Erik nearly died from apoplexy when he heard the news.
He literally had a stroke when Bohemia gave away all their lands except their capitol and Silesia to Austria. The regent decided to wait until the war with Poland was completed. By June of 1563 the Poles had been pushed back east past Hinterpommern into Danzig and through Kustrin into Wielkopolska. The imperial losses had been staggering. Over 100,000 men had died fighting the Poles, but they finally submitted in March of 1564 giving the empire Magdeburg, Brandenburg, et al, leaving Poland kicked out of Germany.
Erik XIV never recovered from his stroke and finally died in July of 1568. Erik the XV rose to power in September 29th, 1568. The senate had tried and somewhat succeeded in regaining some of their power.
During the latest war they had convinced the regent to give them more rights and privileges as well as trade concessions. Some of them even fomented rebellion in the newly conquered lands to keep the regent busy and distracted while they continued their machinations.
When Erik XV came to power he decided the depredations of the senate had to be curbed. He ordered them to disband for a period of five years. This did not go over well with them and they quickly deposed him and installed Johan III as the new Emperor. Nobody really knew what had became of Erik XV. The conspirators weren’t going to tell, and no one else knew the details.
The empire would go on, and the senate believed that they would have a pliable emperor to control. The rebellions in Germany would no doubt be crushed as far as they were concerned. Their power seemed to be safe, for now.
Gustav Vasa had died two months earlier while riding in a fox hunt on the imperial family estates in Lincoln. Erik XIV would now rule the empire. An empire at peace both internally and externally. Trade was good, and the military were in excellent form after their stellar performance against the Venetians and Milanese. All seemed to be well, and that was a sign of concern for some within the empire.
Under the reign of Gustav Vasa the senate had found itself unable to do much of anything. Vasa was too powerful and popular to try and cross. The one time they dared was mid way through his reign and the nobility purge still has many of the remaining senators shuddering in fear. The angry bellow of
“I am VASA! I WILL rule! IS THAT CLEAR? No? Well meet my headsman! I’m sure he will get your undivided attention!”
Dozens of recalcitrant senators met their fate at the headsman’s axe when they crossed the Emperor. The rest quickly learned to toe the line, or else. The coronation of Erik caused many to think that perhaps the time had come to regain much of their lost powers. It was only a matter of time before that powder keg exploded.
Relations with Bohemia had slipped greatly due to a series of border disputes about the territory of Ansbach that dated back decades to when Bavaria owned the land. Now that the empire owned it, we had to deal with provocations from the Bohemians. Finally it was going to come to war. The empire would no longer tolerate Bohemia demanding land it had no right to claim.
October 17, 1561 the empire declared war on Bohemia. The 6th legion swamped the border defenders and was quickly followed by the 5th and 7th legions.
Lithuania, Poland, Cyprus, The Knights, Wallachia, and Mecklenburg quickly came to the aid of Bohemia. Cyprus, Lithuania, The Knights and Wallachia all decided by January to sue for peace in January of 1561. The empire had conquered all of Bohemia except for the capitol. Mecklenburg was only a few months away from falling. The Poles were being pushed out of Germany one province at a time.
Austria declared war on Bohemia, with Poland and Mecklenburg quickly coming to the defense of the Bohemians. Austria marched troops to Mecklenburg and took over the siege on June 30th of 1562. They immediately began a costly assault on the city and took it by July 6th. They annexed the city, stealing it right out from under the empire. Erik nearly died from apoplexy when he heard the news.
He literally had a stroke when Bohemia gave away all their lands except their capitol and Silesia to Austria. The regent decided to wait until the war with Poland was completed. By June of 1563 the Poles had been pushed back east past Hinterpommern into Danzig and through Kustrin into Wielkopolska. The imperial losses had been staggering. Over 100,000 men had died fighting the Poles, but they finally submitted in March of 1564 giving the empire Magdeburg, Brandenburg, et al, leaving Poland kicked out of Germany.
Erik XIV never recovered from his stroke and finally died in July of 1568. Erik the XV rose to power in September 29th, 1568. The senate had tried and somewhat succeeded in regaining some of their power.
During the latest war they had convinced the regent to give them more rights and privileges as well as trade concessions. Some of them even fomented rebellion in the newly conquered lands to keep the regent busy and distracted while they continued their machinations.
When Erik XV came to power he decided the depredations of the senate had to be curbed. He ordered them to disband for a period of five years. This did not go over well with them and they quickly deposed him and installed Johan III as the new Emperor. Nobody really knew what had became of Erik XV. The conspirators weren’t going to tell, and no one else knew the details.
The empire would go on, and the senate believed that they would have a pliable emperor to control. The rebellions in Germany would no doubt be crushed as far as they were concerned. Their power seemed to be safe, for now.
LordLeto- Yeah, something like that. I was NOT happy. Austria will pay, and dearly for her affrontery.
Judge- Thanks. At least I got Poland out of Germany.
Judge- Thanks. At least I got Poland out of Germany.
Look up further in the postings. I discussed how the Tripod site was apparently causing others fits now. I have no way to do it<screenies> right now. Sorry.
Rirre- Thanks. Just not like I had planned. Austria screwed me over.
Just kicked off the BB wars. It was brutal, but profitable in the end. Played until December of 1622. Gustav isn't going to have a problem with Wallenstein. France won't be much of a problem, either. Or England, or Venice.