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Note: This is a game i played and will be loosely based on it, territorial conquets will remain the same and apart from that all the battles and decisions depicted are fictional.

Imperial Conquests - A Shattered Empire


The year is 1399 and Byzantium is ruled from the Imperial court at Constantinople, however after many hard fought battles against the Ottoman Turks the Empire is now but a shell of its former self. Its Asian territories gone, it’s Balkan Territories gone, it’s Greek provinces reduced to a single port, times have never looked so grim for the Empire.

A constant war against the Ottomans has existed, their armies tightening their vice-like from around the capital. That is of course until 1399, in the east a horde has arrived, the last bastion of the lingering Mongol Invasion arrives on the Ottoman doorstep, and their armies so large and so feared the Ottomans must divert their entire force to face them. It is the perfect opportunity to strike.


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Balance of Power in 1399​

The Emperor calls his men to arms, he raises a meagre and of 4000 infantry men and 1000 cavalry and marches into the Balkan lands, he sends messages out to his allies, Wallachia in the north and Montenegro in the East to prepare their armies for war against the infidels. They were however reluctant allies, sending only 2000cavalry and 2 infantry regiments between them to meet up with the Byzantine Force.

Upon hearing of the coming battle in the West the Ottoman Sultan went into a crazed panic, knowing he could not leave his Eastern front, he was forced to leave the Balkan defense to his vassals, Serbia and Bosnia. His vassals commanded a combined force of no less than 8000 men and 3000 cavalry, a weakened force since their defeat at the hands of the Ottomans years earlier, they would still prove an obstacle for the Byzantines.

The Byzantines, made quick progress, striking through Macedonia in a swift, lightening campaign, pillaging as they went along meeting little resistance, as they moved further west they soon approached southern Bulgaria, stopping just short of Serbian Territory to resupply at the city of Plovdiv. They would stay there would 3 nights, until the trap was sprung, out of the darkness the combined Serbian-Bosnian pounced on the unprepared Byzantine force.

As the rally for battle was signaled, the Byzantine force, which had swelled to 8000 strong from Christian recruits in the Balkans, was caught completely by surprise, a fierce battle erupted in the streets as 1-on-1 battles raged on, though the Byzantines fought bravely they were slowly being overwhelmed by the encroaching armies. The Emperor Manuel II, himself in pitched battle, rallied his men on the city outskirts, and beginning a mass retreat Manuel II stayed in the city, ensuring as many men as possible got out alive. Covering their retreat was the remnants 3rd Infantry regiment, numbering just 450 men they managed to hold off the attacking army for hours while the retreat took place, fighting to the last man they finally broke as the sun rose. Though their sacrifice had not been in vain, escaping with 6400 of his men, Manuel II had reorganized his forces 30 miles from the city of Plovdiv and was preparing for a counter attack.

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Byzantine and Bosnian Forces in Pitched Battle at Plovdiv

As the Serbian-Bosnian Force push further on they met Manuel’s army on a flat plain, the two sides surged towards each other, the Byzantine force still heavily outnumbered, where relying on their much smaller cavalry force to hold the flanks while they tried to barge their way through the Center. After hours of pitched battle, Manuel’s force was inflicting heavy casualties on the enemy, but was also seeing his force being slowly depleted; he would not have been able to hold out for much longer, had it not been for the Wallachian-Montenegren relief force arriving onto the battle field, the force slammed into the enemies’ backline , smashing moral and causing the center to crumble, as the mainly Bosnian center attempted to flee they were trapped on either side and it soon became a slaughter with bodies littering the battlefield. Demoralized from seeing their comrades cut down the remaining Serbian-Bosnian force began to flee from the battle field, their commander’s efforts for an orderly retreat were futile and men trampled their own soldiers as they attempted to escape. From the battle over 5000 men were killed, 3/4 of which came from the “Ottoman” army.

As the enemy attempted to retreat back into Serbian lands they were cut off at every turn by Manuel, they were forced to head south, until they reached Greece and took refuge in the Ottoman held city of Kastoria, there their army was resupplied by the Ottoman Garrison, with their army partially recovering the forces they had lost. Manuel soon led his army to the city walls and was met by the enemy who had sallied forth, Manuel, now with a depleted army; losing the Wallachian-Montenegren Relief force, which he’d sent to harass Serbian possessions in Kosovo, now faced an uphill battle he had to win.

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Manuel's Campaign in the West​

But he had leant much from his last battle and came towards the city so he was on his own terms, he picked a narrow pass through the forest to fight the battle, his flanks were protected from cavalry assaults and in such a narrow pass size counted for nothing. The enemy, taking the bait and ready for revenge attacked in an unorganised fashion, their lines smashing head on into the skilled Byzantine lines, which easily repelled the attacking forces. The balance of power was now firmly in the hands of Manuel, his forces began pushing the enemy back across the open plain, the Serbian-Bosnian force soon began to retreat, they were however harassed by lightening fast Byzantine cavalry, which had bolted forward from the back lines as soon as the retreat was signalled. The retreating army, attempting to seek refuge in the walls of Kastoria were cut off by Manuel’s force, all in all almost the entire force had been decimated or captured, Manuel walked into the city of Kastoria unopposed, ready for any coming battles.

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Fierce Battle in the Woodland around Kastoria​

Next – Scourge in the East​
 
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Quite an excellent beginning, discounting the speed-bup that was Plovdiv. Hopefully the hordes of the East can keep Byzantium's hopes alive.
 

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demokratickid said:
Quite an excellent beginning, discounting the speed-bup that was Plovdiv. Hopefully the hordes of the East can keep Byzantium's hopes alive.

Hopefully so, in the game i played as the Byzantines i saw practically no Ottomans in large numbers for quite a few months because of the distraction the Timurids gave, which helped greatly when i was fighting and conquering in the Balkans :D
 

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What's the Turkish capital in this game, Edirne or Angkara? I hope it's Angkara so you can pick up Edirne, Macedonia and Salonika in the peace. Bulgaria and Albania ought to revolt free, with a little helping hand. Looks a good start.

Wonder if your Manuel will stick arounf til 1425?
 

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Hopefully so, in the game i played as the Byzantines i saw practically no Ottomans in large numbers for quite a few months because of the distraction the Timurids gave, which helped greatly when i was fighting and conquering in the Balkans :D

Gee, I wish lucky stuff like that would happen to me more often when playing as the Byzantines!
 

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Quite an aggressive start as the Byzantines... I usually snatch up Achaea then build up a fleet to block any Ottoman reinforcements. Though, if the Turks move all their forces to face the Timurids and open their throats to you, I see no reason why not. Just watch out for Bulgarian and Greek Nationalists... the former are your enemies, the latter you want to grab as much land as possible! :D
 

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Chief Ragusa said:
What's the Turkish capital in this game, Edirne or Angkara? I hope it's Angkara so you can pick up Edirne, Macedonia and Salonika in the peace. Bulgaria and Albania ought to revolt free, with a little helping hand. Looks a good start.

Wonder if your Manuel will stick arounf til 1425?

It's at Edirne, but they usually move it once it is surrounded anyway. I honestly can't remember about Manuel at the moment but he does lives for a long time i believe.

Gee, I wish lucky stuff like that would happen to me more often when playing as the Byzantines!

The Byzantines are easy to win if you can keep the Ottoman mega stacks in Turkey, which would mean blocking off the water ways between Europe and Asia, which i'm gonna feature in the next update.

Quite an aggressive start as the Byzantines... I usually snatch up Achaea then build up a fleet to block any Ottoman reinforcements. Though, if the Turks move all their forces to face the Timurids and open their throats to you, I see no reason why not. Just watch out for Bulgarian and Greek Nationalists... the former are your enemies, the latter you want to grab as much land as possible!

Usually playing as the Byzantines i like to take the coastal provinces and block Ottoman reinforcements from reaching their interior provinces so rebels can reak havoc on them, though i wasn't so cruel this time :p

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Update today or tomorrow depending on if i have enough time.
 

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Scourge in the East

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The Ottoman Sultan - Bayezid I

As his forces were obliterated in the west, the Ottoman Sultan, Bayezid I, was stuck in the East; his long march from the centre of his empire had finally reached the Timurid border, the army he had brought with him numbered 18000 strong, 5000 of which were cavalry. For weeks the Timurid Empire had had free reign over the east, setting up camp near the strategic Ottoman fort of Sivas. Sivas had held out for over a month against repeated assaults and was near starvation, the meagre force of 1000 men inside would not be able to hold out for much longer.

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The Last Stand for Those Trapped In Sivas

The Timurid force, due to attrition and rebellions elsewhere in the empire now numbered just over 25,000 men, half of which were cavalry; led by Timur they were considered one of the mightiest fighting forces in all of Asia. And unfortunately for Bayezid I it was a force that had parked itself on his doorstep. The Ottoman Army after days of preparation for battle had come across the Timurid force unprepared for battle and half asleep in their camp. The Majority of the men in the camp were cavalry men, with the Timurid Infantry presumably continuing the long siege of Sivas; the Ottoman Sultan saw his chance, the enemies’ cavalry, perhaps the greatest in the world, was now lying ready for the slaughter.

Bayezid I, having heard from his scouts the enemies’ horses were lying scarcely defended, saw his opportunity, he sent his 5000 cavalrymen charging down into the camp causing panic throughout the sleeping units, having little defense they were quickly cut down by the much lighter and quicker Ottoman troops. Meanwhile in the horse stables, which contained just over 12,000 horses, a mass slaughter was about to take place, Bayezid I had sent his infantry force to kill every horse there, and they did. For a split second the howls of the screaming horses could be heard for miles away, this was of little concern to the Timurid force in the camp however, which had been soundly routed by this point. With half the Timurid force now dead or running for their lives Bayezid now held a commanding hand in the war, his force now outnumbered the enemy nearly 2 to 1.

He also had cut off the enemy from their supply lines and could have theoretically waited for them to starve, however his war in the west and the deepening crisis in Sivas prevented him from doing this, he was ultimately forced into action. He marched his forces to Sivas, after pillaging and burning the remains of the camp, to face Timur. As he arrived he found a force ready to do battle with him, Timur however had his force spread thinly out, as he attempted to keep the siege of Sivas going, though he now faced an attack from a much larger force as Bayezid’s advancing Infantry crashed into the Timurid lines. Without their legendary cavalry they were no match for the Ottoman forces, they broke easily but were unable to retreat, they had become completely surrounded, and were being cut down, the battle finally ended just a few hours after it had began the Timurid forces began laying down their arms when they all became grief stricken from the death of their once proud King, Timur.

The battle marked a brilliant success for the Ottomans but was the beginning of the end for the Timurid Empire, without a leader they fell into disarray, firstly with Persia revolting then the remnants breaking off in the coming decades after the battle. Bayezid still had bigger problems however; the Byzantines were still pillaging and rampaging around his Empire, a threat that had to be crushed. Bayezid promptly started the long march west, despite the loss of some of his most battle hardened men at Sivas.

Scourge in the West

Meanwhile in the west Manuel II also had a big problem, after virtually securing the Balkans, he now had to either continue the fight with the Ottomans or bring the battle to their Turkish Heartlands or make peace, which he knew the Ottoman Sultan, would never accept, at least not for the demands Manuel II wanted to make. However the problem of the Ottoman Army still loomed, it still despite some heavy battle damage at Sivas was a superior fighting force to his own and Manuel II knew he had to stop it from crossing into Europe.

The one trick Manuel II had up his sleeve was his navy, being refitted and added to in his Greek Port; it was now a force that could challenge even the Ottomans on the sea of the Mediterranean. Defeating the Ottoman navy was the key to winning back the Balkans and Manuel was determined to utilize this fact. His son and heir Manuel III was to lead the battle, in Constantinople a diversionary force was put together, setting sail in the morning it quickly made a dash for the Mediterranean through the Dardanelles, drawing the much larger Ottoman Navy to face it. It quickly surged ahead; eventually reaching the Christian Island of Rhodes, where it refitted and shot off again in the direction of Egypt, were, because of its stop, it was promptly ambushed by the Ottoman Navy.

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Battles for the East and West

However for the Byzantines everything was going to plan, the true Byzantine navy had already set sail from Greece and closed in on the Ottomans. Caught completely unaware the Ottomans panicked, Manuel III’s plan had worked to perfection, his navy slammed in between the lines of the Ottoman navy, launching missiles and the infamous Greek fire wreaked Havoc especially in some of the small pockets formed in the heated battle. During the critical point of the battle, one of the Byzantine command ships was boarded by the Ottomans, rather than let his ship e taken the Byzantine commander ordered his ship to be burned into the sea. The burning ship also took to boarding vessel with him, as well as many other Ottoman ships.

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Battle at Crete

The Ottoman Navy was soon in ruins, its once proud force had been decimated off the coast of Crete, Manuel III returned home a hero and his navy took over the role of containing the Ottoman beast and keeping them from entering Europe.

Next - Constantinople​
 

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Remember that roman empire didn't conquer Germania because they couldn't, the people there were just too uncivilized and too poor to mantain any roman armies in that province or understand their cultural superiority.
And remember the outer wall in Britain, Dacia, Rhoxolanii, Batavii and the Quadii and the Marcomanii areas. :rolleyes:
 

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Remember that roman empire didn't conquer Germania because they couldn't, the people there were just too uncivilized and too poor to mantain any roman armies in that province or understand their cultural superiority.

lol
no the romans beat the germans 3 times and put germani under occupation during the golden age but evry time a pretender or civil strife or in one time they just didn't want it.

Romans held all lands west of the Rhine and all lands south of the Danube.
so your missing some lands in Austria, Germany, southern Scotland, western Hungary and the Netherlands so plz add that for the complete roman empire.
 

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Mattabesta said:
lol
no the romans beat the germans 3 times and put germani under occupation during the golden age but evry time a pretender or civil strife or in one time they just didn't want it.

Tell me more?
They were beating germans once and then, but the only attempt to make germania a province was before Varus and has legions got killed.
And Marcus Aurelius only planned making Moravia and some other lands north of western danube provinces, but that didn't succeed.
 

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Enewald said:
Tell me more?
They were beating germans once and then, but the only attempt to make germania a province was before Varus and has legions got killed.
And Marcus Aurelius only planned making Moravia and some other lands north of western danube provinces, but that didn't succeed.

I can't remember there names but yes the romans were defeated onece and I think Marcus Aurelius took much less land than he could have If he had pressed on. The romans just didn'T want germania as there was littel purpuse in subjegating a bunch of tribes and brining a relevtivly poor and large province to a huge rich empire.
 

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Sorry to say everyone but i was clearing out some old save games and by accident deleted all my Byzantine save files :( So unfortunately that means i can't really continue the AAR.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! :(

Well, I'll get over it. :rofl:
 

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Mattabesta said:
I can't remember there names but yes the romans were defeated onece and I think Marcus Aurelius took much less land than he could have If he had pressed on. The romans just didn'T want germania as there was littel purpuse in subjegating a bunch of tribes and brining a relevtivly poor and large province to a huge rich empire.

If I remember right, the future Emperor Tiberius had quite a bit of success against the German tribes, as did Germanicus, father of Caligula. Both though were rather cautious, and did not press their advantage for those exact reasons - at the time, Germania was too large and too poor to be worth the expense of subjugation.

Sorry to hear about the save, Bad Santa... I wish we could have seen how you built that IMPRESSIVE new Roman Empire... that beats anything I've done with the Byzantines in IN... What year was that taken?