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Mwahahaha! Despite my Frankish plan failing (they DoW'ed Spain shortly after my above post :( ), my plan has been a success! Savoy declared their independence from France, but I failed to note that this completely destroyed the Portugese-headed alliance until some months later. Fortunately, nothing had happened on that diplomatic front, so now my alliances look like this:
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Two bad notes to relate on this, though. First, France's colonial holdings, especially in North America, are predominantly trading posts. Spain has already torched 3 in the Lower Mississippi (I've replaced 2 with my own colonies :D ), and will continue marching until a peace is signed.
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Also, due to a bug in my game, the computer thinks the Reformation hasn't happened yet, even though it knows my state religion is Reformed. On the good side, this means Spain will eventually be hit with the Dutch Revolt agian :cool: ; unfortunately, it also means I won't be able to renew my royal marriage with France when it expires late next year. So unless France goes to peace very soon, I'll have to wait a long, long time before I can make them my vassal :mad: .
Meanwhile, this is what the rest of my colonial situation is like:
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I think you shouldn’t wait, just march into France and show them who is the boss;)
On the other side I really like your plan of trying to stay at peace and not declare war, it gives interesting opportunities, so keep the good work up:)
 

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I think you shouldn’t wait, just march into France and show them who is the boss;)
On the other side I really like your plan of trying to stay at peace and not declare war, it gives interesting opportunities, so keep the good work up:)
Well, I'm not sure *any* plan is going to work: twice in a row the game has CTD in Mar 1642. At first I thought it might be the religion event issue, but that's only at 92% for the Protestant Reformation when it happens.

Oh well, I'll give it another try when I get off the internet tonight.

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And then there was one:
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If Austria loses an election to the imperium, it's their own fault.

Bavaria joined the ranks of minors peacefully assimilated by the AI (so did Aden at some point). And, after some 15 years of patiently waiting, the RM between the Hanseatic League and the Teutonic Knights finally expired, allowing me to safely offer to assimilate the former. :cool: A couple months earlier I had embargoed the Iroquois, whose merchants have been a constant harrassment. After annexing the Hanse, I repaired my relations with my other vassals by bringing them back into the alliance - they had all dropped out when France asked for help against the ever-resurgent Savoy rebellions.

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Congrats on a very peaceful and succesful campaign!
Nice screenshots too!
 

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You'd better end up with a huge chunk of the world through diplomacy then, Mr. Diploannexerman. :p :D

Well, little more than half way through the game, and how does this look?
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And remember, only 1 (one) single province in Europe became mine by peace treaty! Is this enough? No. I still want to vassalize the Teutonic Order (they became my ally when Russia went to war earlier in the year), and dipannex them and Sweden. Then I have to wait for the Edicts of Tolerance to come around again, or have France become Protestant, so I can reform a royal marriage with them, get them vassalized, and, well, you all know what happens then! :p :rolleyes:

In North America I used my traders/colonists to cut off Spain's army that had gone rampaging against France's TPs, to preserve as much as I could. Now I've got cities with forts protecting the whole thing.
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The rest of the world looks like this:
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And so it begins...

The last time Savoy declared independence from France, I answered the call and nothing came of it, even though the war dragged on for some time. This time they declared independence on 1 Apr 1652, and before the month was over Poland-Lithuania and Russia had declared war on me, bringing in Austria and Spain/Aragon. So now I see Europe as this:
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I have no claim on Austria (though I'm sure they don't feel the same :eek:o ), but I certainly plan on showing the world how to defeat Spain. And there's no guarentee the DoW's are over, yet. There's still the Turkish and Portugese alliances.

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Turkey has stayed out of it, but the Mughals declared war, bringing Portugal along but not Mysore (too bad, I was set up to wipe them off the map :( ). However, I sent a couple hundred cav rampaging across Mesoamerica, torched a dozen or two Spanish TPs, and took Moron (with a Goods Manu) for myself, Uruguay for France and cash all around; then I got a white peace from Russia before they managed to get Sweden to cede Karelia.

The Mughals were a tougher nut to crack: I had already decided that the next time we went to war, I wanted to take the mountainous province and then catch my breath, waiting for a third war before obliviating them (I'm a bloodthirsty pacifist :wacko: ). I defeated their armies, took the province, and barely had enough troops left to beseige Delhi. After waiting a couple months to no effect, I finally launched the assault and got lucky, breaking their morale first.

Poland and Austria sent all their troops to take out France's Swiss cantons, allowing me to pull only one army off reeducation programs in Denmark and points south. I captured WPom and then WPrussia and Posen. I asked for the first and a little cash in December but was rebuffed. Before assaulting Warsaw, they offered the latter two, which I declined. Once their capital had fallen, I took WPom and two stars of cash (wiping out their <10 ducats).

So, by mid-Feb 1653, all those wars were concluded. Oh, France and I are still at war with Savoy, which keeps annoying me by being able to demand cash without stars while I cannot. :mad:

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Seems like you were a little lucky, and did a good work in that war, next time those Austrians Dow make sure to show them no mercy;):D
Good work, keep it up and one day you will have fulfilled the English dream through centuries control over France :D
 

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Seems like you were a little lucky, and did a good work in that war, next time those Austrians Dow make sure to show them no mercy;):D
Good work, keep it up and one day you will have fulfilled the English dream through centuries control over France :D

Well, Austria didn't attack me, Poland did. After that post, France conquered Savoy in early April, putting me back at peace. In mid May, Venice declared war on me, bringing Austria and Poland back into the fray. They'll get theirs, though, even if I don't invade Venice: Turkey declared war on Venice even though my BB rating is oh so much higher. :D

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After many months of slowly grinding them down, I got a little cash from Austria, Poland, and finally Venice. No provinces ceded: all my expansion these recent years has been colonial. So here's how the maps look:
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Happy Christmas to all and to all a good night!

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And the beat goes on ...

Ten continuous years of peace and quiet meant I actually got to renew the alliance instead of inviting people back in after they've dropped out. It seems Savoy has given up on declaring independence from France. Oh, and I've dipannexed Sweden.
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I've added China to the alliance, not because I need the help, I just want to make sure no one else uses them against me. Now if only I could get Mysore to declare war...

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Well, I was wrong about Savoy giving up its dreams of independence: they declared it again on 1 Dec 1674. The TO and China both dropped from the alliance, but I supported France and brought China back into the fold. On the 12th the Iroquois (on whose border I've had a conquering army for about a century) declared war on me. I'll get the three mountainous provinces out of it when I feel like making peace with them. On 10 Jan '75 Spain (with Aragon, the Knights and Algiers) and the Mughals both declared war on me; I brought the alliance along against Spain. I sent a state gift (the only one I've sent this game) to China to make sure I keep them, but forgot about maps. When Poland (with Austria and Venice) declared on 7 Feb, China dropped out again. On the other hand, I brought the TO back in to have some fun at Poland's expense. And a few days later China returned as well.

That's been it so far on the wars (currently the end of June), but who knows once I start making peice. ;) I had no trouble taking all the Iroquoian provinces, Spain still hasn't fortified any American provinces without gold mines nor built troops over there, the Mughals are a tough nut to crack but pose no threat, and in Europe my enemies prefer Swiss watches to anything I have. Before it's all over, the difficult Iroquois provinces will be mine, and the Mughals will cease to exist. As for Spain, I plan on taking a couple colonial cities after I've torched every single trading post they own (I plan on blocking access to Amazonia so they won't be able to get back in there).

Is is really imperfidious if I'm just not the one who starts it? :eek:o

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Nice work trying to subvert Siberia from Russian destiny. :D And salutes to all your enemies, who keep bringing you back into the fold of the warriors. :D :D
 

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Nice work trying to subvert Siberia from Russian destiny. :D And salutes to all your enemies, who keep bringing you back into the fold of the warriors. :D :D

Sibir among them, the only enemy I worried about. My North Asian holdings were as well protected as Spain's empire. Fortunately I learned (after misguessing their movement many times) they don't know squat beyond their borders.

Since the last update, Sibir (Turkey, Cyrenaica) declared against me in Aug 1675, Portugal joined the fun the following Mar, Russia in May, and Mysore in Apr '77. There are still 3~4 countries sitting out this BB war, but there's still time as it's not over yet. The Iroquois ceded Irondekoit, Oswego and Shenandahoa in Jul '75. In Oct I torched 42 Spanish trading posts and, of the 24 cities I held, recieved Kleves and Titicaca. The Mughals disappeared from the map in Feb '76, and I settled for cash from Russia that Sep. I've stopped taking notes, but at some point in '78 Portugal ceded Sulawesi (almost all their other trading posts having 'mysteriously' vanished).

Sibir is taking so long because I only have four cities in the North Asian interior, and two of those are east of Lake Bikal. Mysore is almost finished. And, of course, France has yet to finish off Savoy, the ones who started this whole thing.

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What a senseless waste of lives; four and a half years of warfare, and for what? Three colonial empires in the ash tray (Spain, Portugal, and Turkey), three countries erased from the map (Mughals, Mysore, and Sibir). I'm reminded of a line from The Aristocats: "Ladies never start fights, but they can sure finish them!" (or something like that; now I'll have to pop the video in and watch it again). My England may be peaceful and benevolent, but don't pick a fight with us!

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He he no I am sure no one would be stupid enough to pick a fight with you, and if they do I am sure you will show them how to behave: D Good work
 

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You destroyed Sibir?? You monster.... When I tell you to be warmongering, I don't mean to go warmongering against the nations I like ;)
 

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You destroyed Sibir?? You monster.... When I tell you to be warmongering, I don't mean to go warmongering against the nations I like ;)

If it eases the pain, they were the most difficult opponent I faced.

Oh, and I've recently dipannexed the TO.

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All I have to say is, once I've dipannexed France, I'm going to let Savoy have their damn independence. After 11 years of peace and quiet, they did it again. Interestingly enough, the first BB declaration was Spain vs France (I've already made sure to get a pound of flesh for myself on that one :p ). And the latest diplomatic shuffle has seen Portugal join my alliance while Russia has joined Austria and P-L (along with Venice, the Austrian lackey). Iraq has been dipannexed/inheritted by Turkey. Let's see if Persia, Morocco and Algiers join the fun this time.

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