Imperator - Development Diary 11th of February 2019

[Palando]

I love this kind of statements

Now do it again and tell us what is wrong and please give the sources that confirm this. And be aware that sources from this era are often not very reliable and verifiable. A lot of people hate the reality of history because it does not confirm their romantic ideas of how it was.

I am sure that Paradox would love it if you give them access to more reliable historical information that they can implement in the first patch.

Look at my signature. I've posted archeological material quite some time ago.

 

[Von Lauenburg]

Other than for Trade a subject can never enter into diplomatic agreements with other countries.

When a country becomes a subject all their agreements with other countries are broken.

Subjects have military access to the territory of other subjects of the same overlord.

So... can we mod these rules?

 

[Trin Tragula]

So... can we mod these rules?

Subject types are very moddable, you can mix pick and choose whatever specific rules you want from the existing ones, but these three restrictions you cannot mod away.
They are basically what constitutes a subject in the game, rather than some other relationship.

 

[moscal]

Modifiers:

• Overlord gets 3% more Tribesman Happiness per Subject of this type.
• Subject gets 10% higher country civilization cap.
• Subject gets 1 monthly civilization growth.

Do monthly civilization growth should be also, when Overlord is also tribe?

 

[Denkt]

Do monthly civilization growth should be also, when Overlord is also tribe?

You can not have Tribal vassals if you are a tribe so that can not happen.

 

[Hummer]

That's the best dev diary yet. It appears there are some ideas on revolts from CK2 and subject types are somewhat similar to EU4 but with more flavor and more variety. This was great to read.

 

[Lord Hoosier]

No region focus

 

[moscal]

You can not have Tribal vassals if you are a tribe so that can not happen.

The overlord must not be Tribal = overlord don't have to be Tribal. Overlord can or not be tribal. In situation, when overlord cannot be Tribal should be "cannot", "can't" or "must be not" etc.

Or I wrong read this in english

 

[Creamu]

Take the Jewish revolts against the romans for instance, they didn't happen in synchrony with other revolts.

Revolts like that can jsut be handle by events imo. With options with how you want to deal with it.

 

[Nikolai]

I love this kind of statements

Now do it again and tell us what is wrong and please give the sources that confirm this. And be aware that sources from this era are often not very reliable and verifiable. A lot of people hate the reality of history because it does not confirm their romantic ideas of how it was.

I am sure that Paradox would love it if you give them access to more reliable historical information that they can implement in the first patch.

Man, you talk to the wrong guy. @Paland0 has given bucketloads of proof for his position.

 

[cristofolmc]

I hope taking vassals in war isnt as heavy restricted as in EU4, where you can only make vassals when their a just a couple of provinces size. So we can indeed make in one war all numidia vassal and stuff like that that happened historically.

 

[Denkt]

Johan made Judea a client state for 19 warscore so it is probably 1 warscore per city.

 

[Chipmunk216]

Can we release territory that is currently fully integrated into the realm as a satrapy, client state, etc.?

 

[Badesumofu]

The overlord must not be Tribal = overlord don't have to be Tribal. Overlord can or not be tribal. In situation, when overlord cannot be Tribal should be "cannot", "can't" or "must be not" etc.

Or I wrong read this in english

"The overlord must not be tribal' means the same thing as 'the overlord can not be tribal'. What you might be thinking of is a phrase like 'the overlord need not be tribal', or something of the form 'the overlord [negation]-{must be tribal}'. The 'not' in Trin's sentence negates the ability to be tribal, not the requirement to be tribal.

'Must' and 'can' mean different things (required that, and permitted that respectively), but 'must not' and 'can not' mean the same thing which is really is very strange, but that's English for you. 'Must not' means 'it is required that you not do [thing]', 'can not' means 'it's not permitted that you do [thing]'.

 

[Rabid]

Does a civil war / revolt break out as soon as the conditions are fulfiled or is there some kind of timer which ticks up?

 

[Denkt]

Does a civil war / revolt break out as soon as the conditions are fulfiled or is there some kind of timer which ticks up?

There is a timer for civil war and I would very much suspect there is one for revolts as well.

 

[vicbus]

Is the time to integrate a subject scaled on some variable? Territory size? Pop size?

 

[Denkt]

Is the time to integrate a subject scaled on some variable? Territory size? Pop size?

Yes it take time to integrate a subject.

Integration

In time the overlord may want to directly integrate a subject. This requires relations at over 190 and will after a long period turn the entire subject country into directly owned territory by the overlord. Not all Subject Types can be integrated however. Some, like the tributary, are too loosely aligned with the overlord for such a thing to even be possible.

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[Cheexsta]

Is there any plan to add a "Union" mapmode toggle, where a subject gains the same colouring (in the political mapmode) as the overlord? I find this option very useful in Stellaris to better gauge at a glance who is subject to whom, and how powerful a country with many subjects really is.

 

[cldcrst]

What is Babylonia doing in East Persia?