Fought a long war vs Trevaria and auto-peaced because someone made him a subject, ugh
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There once was a man named Johan,
his nations were always well ran,
he saw poor Boi,
and said MUST DESTROY!,
and poor Boi needed a new game-plan.
his nations were always well ran,
he saw poor Boi,
and said MUST DESTROY!,
and poor Boi needed a new game-plan.
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I knew the outcome of the First Punic War ever since I saw how Carthage dismanteled most of his fleet last session.
SALVE KAISER.
SALVE KAISER.
Session 1
491 AB URBE CONDITA
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Score
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* Multiplayer Statistics
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Score
- Dobunnia 2980
- Pergamon 2731
- Rome 2612
- Maurya 2533
- Epirus 2015
- Anuradhapura 1823
- Armorica 1703
- Kush 1560
- Shule 1384
- Egypt 1277
- Phrygia 1208
- Chola 1196
- Ionia 1099
- Tayuan 1067
- Paeonia 1043
- Arvernia 972
- Taurinia 971
- Latobicia 968
- Sparta 960
- Oretania 950
- Maurya 148.03
- Phrygia 91.14
- Rome 62.78
- Carthage 58.58
- Egypt 57.97
- Seleucid Empire 51.11
- Dobunnia 26.62
- Bactria 26.04
- Kush 22.04
- Anuradhapura 21.00
- Armenia 19.50
- Getia 18.55
- Celticia 17.84
- Chola 17.09
- Pergamon 13.79
- Pictonia 13.57
- Armorica 12.94
- Cappadocia 12.74
- Nitiobrogia 12.34
- Ausetania 12.07
- Maurya 7447
- Seleucid Empire 3807
- Phrygia 3533
- Egypt 2742
- Rome 2706
- Carthage 1550
- Bactria 1361
- Dobunnia 1120
- Armenia 900
- Kush 897
- Chola 708
- Anuradhapura 612
- Getia 601
- Cappadocia 578
- Boihaemia 458
- Saxonia 452
- Celticia 440
- Armorica 421
- Ashmaka 359
- Bosporan Kingdom 354
- Maurya 388K
- Seleucid Empire 202K
- Phrygia 160K
- Rome 139K
- Egypt 131K
- Carthage 115K
- Armenia 104K
- Bactria 81,840
- Saxonia 64,920
- Getia 61,920
- Kush 55,680
- Chola 52,440
- Ashmaka 46,680
- Celticia 43,080
- Pictonia 42,960
- Cappadocia 41,160
- Bosporan Kingdom 37,920
- Kharesmia 34,920
- Boihaemia 33,840
- Armorica 31,080
- Maurya 140
- Rome 124
- Phrygia 120
- Egypt 103
- Saxonia 102
- Carthage 93
- Getia 76
- Seleucid Empire 65
- Armistia 65
- Kush 54
- Boihaemia 54
- Armorica 53
- Pictonia 52
- Chola 48
- Massylia 46
- Celticia 44
- Kharesmia 44
- Pontus 42
- Epirus 37
- Dobunnia 36
- Rome 97
- Carthage 68
- Phrygia 34
- Egypt 31
- Kush 28
- Seleucid Empire 23
- Vandalia 23
- Kalinga 23
- Anuradhapura 19
- Thamud 14
- Armorica 13
- Alupa 8
- Epirus 7
- Macedon 7
- Cimbria 7
- Maurya 6
- Chola 6
- Qataba 6
- Ma'in 6
- Colchis 6
- Anuradhapura 38
- Commagene 37
- Epirus 36
- Maurya 36
- Amacia 36
- Byblos 34
- Epirote Revolt 34
- Intimilia 34
- Breucia 34
- Catenatia 33
- Ercuniatia 33
- Sevacia 33
- Noricia 33
- Mahisha 32
- Pergamon 32
- Shule 32
- Caladunia 32
- Namnetia 32
- Carthage 31
- Argos 31
- Pataliputra in Maurya 164
- Antigonia in Phrygia 116
- Seleukia Megale in Seleucid Empire 115
- Alexandria in Egypt 79
- Roma in Rome 76
- Bhamangati in Maurya 75
- Bactra in Bactria 63
- Naukratis in Egypt 62
- Anuradhapura in Anuradhapura 60
- Memphis in Egypt 59
- Bacchav in Maurya 59
- Carthage in Carthage 58
- Korelloura in Satiyaputa 56
- Babylon in Seleucid Empire 55
- Meroe in Kush 54
- Leontopolis in Egypt 53
- Kushmeikhan in Bactria 51
- Athani in Kuntala 50
- Urayur in Chola 49
- Mahisha in Mahisha 49
The winner of this session is clearly Phrygia though. My GOD that AI's got me hyped. What a comeback from AI phrygia.
The Saxonian Migrating Pox strategy still looks both terrible and gamey, especially early in the dev clash.
The team should probably take a page out of Stellaris' book regarding expansion and penalize too many unconnected territories.
The team should probably take a page out of Stellaris' book regarding expansion and penalize too many unconnected territories.
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that Rome won't finish this campaign in the top 5 
In my experience it's never a good idea to show too much dominance early on, that leads to coalitions forming!
And Rome has no "natural" allies - the Gauls and barbarians fear it, the Carthagians hate it now, Egypt sees it as a rival, and Macedon ... well... Macedon might be a natural client state now if the Romans promise it aid in retaking Greece, but it will certainly not be a willing long-term ally...
In my experience it's never a good idea to show too much dominance early on, that leads to coalitions forming!
And Rome has no "natural" allies - the Gauls and barbarians fear it, the Carthagians hate it now, Egypt sees it as a rival, and Macedon ... well... Macedon might be a natural client state now if the Romans promise it aid in retaking Greece, but it will certainly not be a willing long-term ally...
More than a little annoyed that Phrygia made such a comeback. Not being able to count on allies to help against them isn't good either, however right at the end of the session Phrygia did declare war on the Seleucid Empire.
So there might be an opportunity there to hit them whilst they are busy.
So there might be an opportunity there to hit them whilst they are busy.
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My prediction once again holds true, oh how the Gods like to make mortal men their play thing.Get game overed again
I have such accurate prophetic visions, but alas all they portray is my own demise.
Cursed to forever see my own end again and again and again.
I for one appreciated the efforts the AI went to in trying to claim the player-slayer trophy this session
You should've taken on them when they imploded. Big mistake. Now its gonna be a lot harder. They seem to be winning the war against seleucids so far. And they have very good stats. I dont know why other diadochi didnt just ally to quickly and swiflty take them out. Macedon is out now. Better hope its not too late now and it doesnt get too out of control.
Armenia gave Seleucids sweet hell. A spartan defense right there, winning battle after battle. But they could only hold so much against such big numbers. But allowed him to come out of it quite well, just losing one province
They kind of do already. When you border an uncolonised province barbarians spawn. Clearly not enough barbarians though.
You should've taken on them when they imploded. Big mistake. Now its gonna be a lot harder. They seem to be winning the war against seleucids so far. And they have very good stats. I dont know why other diadochi didnt just ally to quickly and swiflty take them out. Macedon is out now. Better hope its not too late now and it doesnt get too out of control.
Armenia gave Seleucids sweet hell. A spartan defense right there, winning battle after battle. But they could only hold so much against such big numbers. But allowed him to come out of it quite well, just losing one province
I did fight them last week, took a province off them, so started this session with a five year truce. By the time I was ready to fight them again, they had crushed Macedon. Also at some point I lost my alliance with Seleucid and they hate me now, not sure what happened there or when.
The problem now, isn’t really Phrygia itself, but rather it’s vassals, as the stats don’t show there is a good 50 to 100 thousand more troops from them
Phrygia is clearly this weeks big Winner and rises from the Ashes...my imaginary crystal ball tells me that perhaps history will repeat itself and we will see a coalition against the "one-eyed one" with Egypy, Selecuid, Macedon and perhaps even adding a few new ones like Getia into the mix?
You guys are splitting British culture in to more groups right? Maybe Gaulic culture too? Mass expanding giant culture groups seems super strong right now...
Roman culture also seems a bit... large.
Roman culture also seems a bit... large.
I did fight them last week, took a province off them, so started this session with a five year truce. By the time I was ready to fight them again, they had crushed Macedon. Also at some point I lost my alliance with Seleucid and they hate me now, not sure what happened there or when.
The problem now, isn’t really Phrygia itself, but rather it’s vassals, as the stats don’t show there is a good 50 to 100 thousand more troops from them
Uufff, Jake didnt show that during the stream. You cant see they are all vassals by looking at the map. You're gonna have to some how team up as many as you can to bring them down. Lets hope they dont win the war against the seleucids as well
The couple provinces they have left you mean? They are not much of a help. I wonder if Egypt can ally Seleucids. They should join Egyp, Macedon, Bactria, Armenia, and Seleucids if possible.
Bactria is pleased to have both survived the war with the Seleucids and to have weathered the civil war.
Onwards to new adventures...
Onwards to new adventures...
After today's devclash I'm quite satisfied how the civilized world looks quite historically plausible, and that the AI performs well. On the other hand the tribal areas looks like they need more anti-blobbing mechanisms. Tribal splits when growing too large or something like that seems necessary. Gavelkind on ruler death?
I have been investing since day 1 to Romanize the other latin cultures in italy. At gamestart, it really is just the Latium province itself that is fully Roman