Immortal religion change

[noonon]

I'm trying to change back to zoroastianism as an immortal character. I started as the bavandids but switched to sunni to have an easier go. I happened to become immortal in ironman while still sunni and now I noticed I can't change back. I'm not zealous so I don't know what would be stopping it the decision can't come up. Can you not change religion as an immortal character. Or is something else potentially blocking it?

 

[Simmy93]

Probably another reason, though as an immortal I imagine your belief in God might wane as you may never have the chance to meet the chap.

 

[Philostherogue]

is your capital Zoroastrian?

 

[noonon]

I changed my capital to a zoroastian province the decision didn't come up. Last time I checked I wasn't independent. So that might have something to do with it. I'll have to check when I get back on.

 

[Greybeard0815]

IIRC you can only change your religion by decision once per lifetime. You already converted to Sunni.

Another thread already brought this up recently. Not sure what my opinion on the matter is. If you could change your religion even every 100 years it would be a very powerful tool and allow you to do very strange things. Like being Crusader, Saoshyant and Fylkir at the same time.

 

[Surimi]

You have to be either independent or have a zoroastrian liege, I believe.

 

[Dragatus]

IIRC you can only change your religion by decision once per lifetime. You already converted to Sunni.

Another thread already brought this up recently. Not sure what my opinion on the matter is. If you could change your religion even every 100 years it would be a very powerful tool and allow you to do very strange things. Like being Crusader, Saoshyant and Fylkir at the same time.

No, there is no limit on how many times you can change religion.

You need to be independent (or have a liege of a different religion), you can't be a nomad, your capital needs to have a different religion than you, you can't be of an Indian religion (because they have their own religion swapping decision), you can't be the head of your religion (caliph, Fylkir), you can't be a holy order (or AI in general), you must have the Rajas of India DLC, and you need 1000 Prestige in order to convert to a different religious group (or 500 to convert to another religion within the same religious group). And if you're the Byzantine emperor in the CM start you can't do this but have to use the Renounce Iconoclasm special decision instead.

    convert_to_local_religion = {
        only_playable = yes
        potential = {
            ai = no
            is_playable = yes
            is_nomadic = no
            capital_scope = {
                NOT = { religion = ROOT }
            }
            OR = {
                independent = yes
                liege = {
                    NOT = { religion = ROOT }
                }
            }
          
            # The Indian religions can convert to each other anyway
            OR = {
                NOT = { religion_group = indian_group }
                capital_scope = {
                    NOT = { religion_group = indian_group }
                }
            }
          
            controls_religion = no
            holy_order = no
          
            has_dlc = "Rajas of India"
          
            NOT = {
                AND = {
                    has_dlc = "Charlemagne"
                    has_landed_title = e_byzantium  # May instead renounce iconoclasm
                    has_landed_title = c_byzantion
                    religion = iconoclast
                    capital_scope = { religion = orthodox }
                }
            }
        }
        allow = {
            OR = {
                AND = {
                    prestige = 500
                    capital_scope = {
                        religion_group = ROOT
                    }
                }
                AND = {
                    prestige = 1000
                    capital_scope = {
                        NOT = { religion_group = ROOT }
                    }
                }
            }
        }

My guess would be that the issue in this specific case is probably either insufficient prestige or that the liege was Sunni too.

 

[noonon]

Oh so I do have to be independent then. Silly me I didn't remember that being a requirement. Good to know,being unable to convert in this case would kinda ruin the point of this particular game even if I'm immortal

 

[Dragatus]

You don't have to be independent. You have to be either independent or have a liege that is not of the religion you're trying to abandon. So if you are Sunni and your liege is Sunni, then you can't convert. But if you were Sunni and your liege was any other religion then you could convert.

Alternatively, if you somehow adopted a Sunni heresy, you would likewise be able to convert to local religion.