I'm Russia and I want a shipyard!

[tkorsvold]

Hello,

I'm playing Russia. Need advice on how to grab a shipyard early, I want that extra colonist. Any tips? Maybe I should go for Ragusa? How to do it? aargh...


regards, Thorstein

 

[unmerged(158)]

If you already get some colonists I guess that you have already annexed Kazan, Golden Horde, Astrachan and Sibir plus some port in the Baltic. You have a huge income already. I think the easiest and cheapest way is to build one.

 

[tkorsvold]

Usually, I take Kazan, Golden Horde, Atrakhan, Sibir and Persia before 1510. You're right; I'm rich! But it's still difficult to walk through Turkey to get to Venice. Would be great fun if there were a way to do that. Building a shipyard is boring...

 

[unmerged(4943)]

What Naval Tech do you need to build a shipyard? 16? There is no way you can build a shipyard "early". Once you reach tech 16 as Russia most of the world will already be colonized, so I guess you´ll have to get a Black sea port as soon as possible and launch a naval expedition against Venice/Ragusa.

Good luck!

 

[unmerged(3627)]

If you can build a big enough fleet to go wandering about, it's probably easier to take Andalusia than Ragusa ... bigger supply, and Spain tends to do a pretty bodge job of defending its homeland. Course, it's a lot further to go so you'll suffer more attrition en route, unless you knock over an african minor to serve as a resupply depot. Or be allied to Venice *against* the Turk, and use their ports as stopovers.

 

[tkorsvold]

Hey, that's an idea - allying to Venice first, taking one of the Turkish provinces close to Ragusa. Thereafter I can do a little switcheroo...

 

[Licou]

Wow, i though that I was the best for back-stabing

 

[unmerged(3408)]

Ragusa might be the smart choice. But you could always get gutsy and try to go after Spain.

 

[unmerged(469)]

I have a hard time translating Heyesey's post (buckshy??) but I agree about Andalusia. If you've already got a Baltic port not that hard to reach.

But you might want to reevaluate your pressing need for a shipyard. You get plenty of colonists as it is.

 

[unmerged(3408)]

Ture. But shipyards are always useful if you want to have a presence on the high seas.

 

[Licou]

But it's not a priority for the russians.

 

[tkorsvold]

any other ideas about how to take Ragusa early?

 

[Agelastus]

Keep an eye out for a Polish-Hungarian alliance, which happens quite often, and then consider borders-after a few wars between the various AI states it's quite possible that you can now march across their entire territory straight to Ragusa, if you don't mind the probability of a double war-and you've probably still got a nice CB against the Poles!

 

[unmerged(931)]

Andalusia is the way to go. Spain never tries to get it back, and anything that hurts Spain is points in the bank. Besides, it's easier to take than Ragusa.

 

[unmerged(3627)]

Originally posted by Admiral Yi
I have a hard time translating Heyesey's post (buckshy??)

...means free. But I didn't use it in this thread

 

[Licou]

But, once again, is it that important to have that as a Russian???

 

[tkorsvold]

Maybe I should just ally with Turkey and wait for them to start a war with Venice?

 

[Heretic]

friendly port

sorry,

did somebody mention using their allie's ports?

I have not been able to do that - there is a cross when I try to come in to lower attrition, so normally I just sail the fleets right back home after succesfully dropping off the invading army (heavy onshore resistance notwithstanding).

Advice welcome

Heretic

 

[unmerged(3408)]

Your ships can you can use your allies' ports in time of war.

 

[Agelastus]

Using your allies ports during a war is a handy option, but it's one I rarely use-although since your allies don't kick your fleet out when the war ends it can be a useful strategic move.