I'm out of gas

[Eärendil]

Heh, sorry for the bad pun but I'm really frustrated. It is 1933, I'm playing Serbia in vanilla Rev GC, and I haven't had the techs Gas Attack Capability nor Gas Defend Capability fired yet. By checking the triggers I see this:

trigger = {
		technology = 1004

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1895 }
	offset = 60 # Check for trigger conditions every 60 days
	deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1935 }

I researched the required tech many many years ago (can't remember when but probably around 1860 or something) and at the moment I'm the most advanced nation in the world, but still I haven't had the inventions firing. How come?

All my neighbours, Italy, Austria, Russia and the Ottoman Empire (and Greece, but they will cease to exist soon) have these techs and having a really unfair advantage. It's really hard to win wars against them with that disadvantage. I try hard to abstain from cheating and exploits in all forms but it's really tempting to fire the techs manually.

Does anyone have an explanation for this?

 

[fudd_bopo]

No idea what's wrong (never happened to me)... try firing them manually and see if they show up. Even if they do though there's not much left if you're in 1933...

 

[Eärendil]

Ok, I tried firing them manually and Gas Attack Capacity fires when I type "event 109" but Gas Defense Capacity (110) doesn't.

And yes, this is quite important as Italy just declared war on me.

 

[unmerged(49082)]

Inventions are random. So even if all triggers are met you can theoretically wait till the end of the world unitll they fire. In practice however inventions should trigger within a couple of months/years unless you screw your prestige. Oh, and IIRC gas defence requires gas attack to trigger first and doing it manually doesn't mark it in the savefile so conditions for defence are not met when you do it.

 

[Eärendil]

Well, the thing is that my prestige has been between 100 and 300 since I researched the required tech, and I still don't know why they don't fire.

Thanks for the explanation about firing them manually, it sounds reasonable.

 

[unmerged(86954)]

Sometimes it takes ages for the inventions to fire. Once as Austria I researched Realism well before 1840 (should it even be possible!?) and the invetions fire over ten years later, giving me 1 prestige.

 

[Eärendil]

Well it's slightly different from not having an event fire 40 years after the start date and about 75 years from the required tech was researched.

And besides, the realist inventions have 1860 as their startdate...

 

[Dysken]

What's your prestige. I've painstakingly experienced that it is an important part in gettin the gas defence.

 

[Eärendil]

It's been at 200-300 for the majority of the years. But guess what, in 1934 after winning the war against Italy, both of the inventions fire! Woohoo!! . Now I have a full year to get use of them. Well, it is gonna be an interesting year since Prussia declared war on me.