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I don't think you can.

Is there a disadvantage to a RM with a vassal? If they are a vassal, they already take up a relation slot, adding a RM won't fill the vacant one.
 

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I don't think you can.

Is there a disadvantage to a RM with a vassal? If they are a vassal, they already take up a relation slot, adding a RM won't fill the vacant one.

Vassals tend to be lower rank therefore will lower your Legitimacy. Otherwise, It's a good idea to be married to all your vassals anyways for the relation boost and to evenually be able to anex them. Your Legitimacy will usually recover fairly easily from the small hit (-1 to 5-)
 

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The AI does not differentiate between player nations and AI nations on normal, which means that the AI thinks that you would accept the offer if you were an AI as the AI will fill up its diplomatic relations and rivals within a month as soon as a spot is free. It will keep spamming you until you fill your diplomatic slots or they no longer want to have a royal marriage (though if you decline an offer from one nation they will not send a similar offer in 5 years if I remember correctly).

Also, as mentioned before, you should probably accept the offers coming from your vassals. It will not take up an extra slot and their opinion of you will increase, making annexation easier down the road.
 

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The AI does not differentiate between player nations and AI nations on normal, which means that the AI thinks that you would accept the offer if you were an AI as the AI will fill up its diplomatic relations and rivals within a month as soon as a spot is free. It will keep spamming you until you fill your diplomatic slots or they no longer want to have a royal marriage (though if you decline an offer from one nation they will not send a similar offer in 5 years if I remember correctly).

Also, as mentioned before, you should probably accept the offers coming from your vassals. It will not take up an extra slot and their opinion of you will increase, making annexation easier down the road.

Not to mention the increased heir chance and increased legitimacy per year from the marriage.
 

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You should always marry your vassal ASAP. In the long term it also helps to get better heirs OR to be able to replacement a crappy heir (you know having a pool of heirs of 50, 40, 20 years old, etc.)

The best way to preserve a diplomatic slot is to ask for military access to a nation you can't marry with.

BTW, did anyone noticed that in 1.5 RMs tend to break too often? I'm about to fill in a bug report for that.
 

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You should always marry your vassal ASAP. In the long term it also helps to get better heirs OR to be able to replacement a crappy heir (you know having a pool of heirs of 50, 40, 20 years old, etc.)

The best way to preserve a diplomatic slot is to ask for military access to a nation you can't marry with.

BTW, did anyone noticed that in 1.5 RMs tend to break too often? I'm about to fill in a bug report for that.

Pretty much break every once or two rulers for me. It didn't happen before this patch, but it can be handy if you wanted to break the marriage anyway.
 

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You should always marry your vassal ASAP. In the long term it also helps to get better heirs OR to be able to replacement a crappy heir (you know having a pool of heirs of 50, 40, 20 years old, etc.)

The best way to preserve a diplomatic slot is to ask for military access to a nation you can't marry with.

BTW, did anyone noticed that in 1.5 RMs tend to break too often? I'm about to fill in a bug report for that.

Royal marriages break when one of the rulers die. Not breaking was actually a bug that was fixed in the recent patches. Much better since before people you longer wanted to be a ally would still take up a relationship slot.
 

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May I ask why you wouldn't want a royal marriage with your vassals?
Because I am the HRE emperor and my vassals don't cost me a relation slot. If I have a royal marriage with them then they cost me a relation slot. Why would I want to do that?
 

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Because I am the HRE emperor and my vassals don't cost me a relation slot. If I have a royal marriage with them then they cost me a relation slot. Why would I want to do that?

That's a very specific situation I didn't take into consideration. You're referring to enacting the reform that makes everyone your vassal?
 

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You can simply disable that alert I think ? Or just ignore them like I do all those military access requests. I am the GOD-KING, I decide who traverses my land and who's bed I plow :p
 

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That's a very specific situation I didn't take into consideration. You're referring to enacting the reform that makes everyone your vassal?
Yea. I revoked the privilegia and ever since all my new vassals keep spamming me with royal marriage offers.


You can simply disable that alert I think ?
That sounds like a good idea. I'll see if that's possible.
 

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Because I am the HRE emperor and my vassals don't cost me a relation slot. If I have a royal marriage with them then they cost me a relation slot. Why would I want to do that?

Because you have open relation slots the ai thinks you are amenable to the offer because under the same conditions an ai nation would be. If you don't want to be spammed by diplomatic offers you need to either have all relations slots filled or have every nation not taking a slot hate you.

RMs break when the ruler of the nation that proposed it dies, the same as it was all through EU 3 (and probably further back than that). This was changed (broken?) in previous versions of EU 4.

I'm not sure if it still is but it used to be possible to instantly inherit a vassal if you had a RM although chances were pretty bad.
 

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I'm not sure if it still is but it used to be possible to instantly inherit a vassal if you had a RM although chances were pretty bad.
In EU IV this was never possible. I don't know if it was possible in EU III but I don't think it was either (I could be wrong about EU III though)
 

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In EU IV this was never possible. I don't know if it was possible in EU III but I don't think it was either (I could be wrong about EU III though)

It absolutely was possible in EU 3 as I saw it on more than one occasion. I'm not sure about 4 being not possible or just never seen it due to poor odds.