I'm about to toss every single spitfire in the trash.

[LegioX]

This plane is beyond useless. Even if you see an enemy fighter/bomber, fighter, or a ju88 and you immediately call one in to intercept. they still will not catch it. Useless and they frustrate me to no end!!!!!!

The rocket pod 109's need their speed reduced by 10 or even 20. They should not have the same speed as a spitfire fighter with no payloads.

 

[Lomak]

Take the polish division.... enjoy their air speed

 

[Schwarz-W-R]

Maybe you should think about yout way using them instead of nerfing other units. Like many other players.. You could keep one in air to spot enemy planes a lot sooner for example. Then you have more time to bring the others out in time.

 

[LegioX]

Maybe you should think about yout way using them instead of nerfing other units. Like many other players.. You could keep one in air to spot enemy planes a lot sooner for example. Then you have more time to bring the others out in time.

Do you really think a 109 with a rocket pod underneath its wings should fly at the same speed as a fighter? Come on man.

 

[DuroSVK]

Have always one fighter in air cycling around to spot enemy bombers sooner.

 

[LegioX]

Have always one fighter in air cycling around to spot enemy bombers sooner.

Then they will just wait until your plane runs out of fuel and go in when you RTB.

 

[jammiebadger]

Which is why you buy a second one.

 

[DuroSVK]

Then they will just wait until your plane runs out of fuel and go in when you RTB.

Please, read again. Or see the above post where other user advised to buy second plane.

 

[DoubleDan68]

Do you really think a 109 with a rocket pod underneath its wings should fly at the same speed as a fighter? Come on man.

Go play a flight simulator before you make yourself look like a fool.

 

[local-festival]

JUST BUY ANOTHER PLANE, BRO.

 

[fufubear]

Go play a flight simulator before you make yourself look like a fool.

I'm not sure what this quote means. It's true that a 109 with rockets or gunpods should not even be close to the same speed of a clean spitfire but if you think eugen should implement that is all up to opinion. The problem is without any nerf the 109 g6/r6 is flat out better than the spitfire since it has more firepower despite irl the 109 being outgunned by the spitfire. Then the problem comes that if you do nerf the g6/r6 most German Divisions have a gimped fighter to defend themselves and only a few are left with the 109 g0.

 

[Drang]

The G6/R6 does have a dubiously high speed for a platform that's carrying more munitions than your average frigate.

 

[Schwarz-W-R]

The problem is without any nerf the 109 g6/r6 is flat out better than the spitfire since it has more firepower despite irl the 109 being outgunned by the spitfire. Then the problem comes that if you do nerf the g6/r6 most German Divisions have a gimped fighter to defend themselves and only a few are left with the 109 g0.

That´s the point, it´s because of balance. A Tiger should also not have the same max range as an allies tank but for balance reasons we live with it and don´t bring up that it should be changed.

Allies have a lot of planes and it´s already hard enough to fight them off. Keep a scout plane up in the air behind the front and you will have enough time to get the planes in time if you are not too far on the map. If you are you have to keep them in the air, if I remember right some allies bombers are also pretty fast or am I wrong? Really don´t know but I think I couldn´t catch some a few days ago.

 

[fufubear]

Bombers are all way too fast but since the allies have the 2 fastest planes in the game it doesn't hit them as hard as it does the Germans.

 

[IronHat]

Go play a flight simulator before you make yourself look like a fool.

the rocket rack create drag and increase the weight of the plane. Bf109 was an infamously draggy plane with an equally famous high p/w ratio, giving the bf109 rocket pod make it weakness worst and its strength weaker. It's honestly one of the worst plane you could use for ground attack (except maybe the Zero).

 

[Yossarian23]

the rocket rack create drag and increase the weight of the plane. Bf109 was an infamously draggy plane with an equally famous high p/w ratio, giving the bf109 rocket pod make it weakness worst and its strength weaker. It's honestly one of the worst plane you could use for ground attack (except maybe the Zero).

So you're saying that draggy aircraft are particularly ill-suited for ground attack/CAS duty?

 

[DoubleDan68]

the rocket rack create drag and increase the weight of the plane. Bf109 was an infamously draggy plane with an equally famous high p/w ratio, giving the bf109 rocket pod make it weakness worst and its strength weaker. It's honestly one of the worst plane you could use for ground attack (except maybe the Zero).

The bf109 is widely known for its awesome combination of the holy Trinity of plane design. It had the best combination of speed, firepower and mobility. Few wonder why the ace of aces, Eric Hartmann, preferred using the vehicle. I believe that the design would further inspire the creation of other fighter aircraft. The F-22 and F-16 both were heavily inspired by the design.

 

[DoubleDan68]

The G6/R6 does have a dubiously high speed for a platform that's carrying more munitions than your average frigate.

Actually you will find that the speed it has in game is the closesr to it's real life preformance than any other plane. Are you really going to tell me that the p47 could go the speed it does in game?

 

[fufubear]

The bf109 is widely known for its awesome combination of the holy Trinity of plane design. It had the best combination of speed, firepower and mobility. Few wonder why the ace of aces, Eric Hartmann, preferred using the vehicle. I believe that the design would further inspire the creation of other fighter aircraft. The F-22 and F-16 both were heavily inspired by the design.

It was certainly not known for any kind of holy trinity. It was known for being an extremely cheap aerodynamic nightmare that was kept alive by the amazing German engine industry. Aces only preferred it because they were used to it. In nearly all important aspects the 190 was better.

Actually you will find that the speed it has in game is the closesr to it's real life preformance than any other plane. Are you really going to tell me that the p47 could go the speed it does in game?

Nope the g6/r6 is much too fast and turns too well. Those 20mm gunpods had a significant side effect to performance.

 

[LegioX]

The bf109 is widely known for its awesome combination of the holy Trinity of plane design. It had the best combination of speed, firepower and mobility. Few wonder why the ace of aces, Eric Hartmann, preferred using the vehicle. I believe that the design would further inspire the creation of other fighter aircraft. The F-22 and F-16 both were heavily inspired by the design.

109 was already considered obsolete when the spitfire Mk1 came into service during brief intro in battle of Dunkrik and Battle of Britian. Only thing 109 had going for it was better E retention and ability to do a negative dive, in which the spitfire could not. However, in a knife fight the spitfire rekt the 109.

I mean the 190 was designed to combat the spitfire.