Ihíio, Itlátol - An Offscreen Aztec Map Project

[Thure]

Ihíio, Itlátol
(His Breath, His Word)​

"Ihíio, Itlátol" or translated into 'His Breath, His Word' is an Aztec proverb describes the importance of the Aztec Emperor and his words. And this mod will make the Aztec Emperor even more important than before. As an Offmap Power the Aztec emperor will no longer control his troops in Europe on his own. He will send his Cuauhtlatoani (Viceroy, literally The one who speaks like Eagle) to pacify the Old New World.

But I still need some people to help me with this. Especially:
-Designers with a lot of ideas which could be added to the mod!
-People with a deeper knowledge about Nahuatl language and culture
-Event scripters for more Aztec events to improve the experience.
-Perhaps some Graphic Designers for a more flavourful interface?



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Just a 'small' project while I'm updating my map mod... which is a very boring job... I need something more entertaining for a while. And this is a good way to learn the new mechanics of Jade Dragon.

 

[Thure]

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[Thure]

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[Dragonsploof]

I always found it weird that the event text for the Aztec invasion would say stuff about the Emperor in Tenochtitlan congratulates the commanders who captured London or Paris or whatever when the Emperor himself was leading the besieging army. Also, why would he take the almost certainly dangerous voyage to Europe or North Africa?

I imagine the Aztecs would start in an Expansionist state and go into the plague state after the Old World diseases come over and kill lots of his people.

 

[Enriador]

Will the mod add a western "Jade Road" as well?

 

[Dragonsploof]

Cocoa sea route

 

[Thure]

Will the mod add a western "Jade Road" as well?

Only if there is a way to make dynamic trade routes... But I haven't seen anything like this. There shouldn't be a trade route in the 768 date. Otherwise it would be a nice event after the contact started 'Trade Route established!'

 

[Wixelt]

If you doing this, you should mak Aztec religion a organised "Western" faith rather than pagan.

EDIT: For serious? How could the Aztec become powerful to send a huge invasion across the Atlantic without ever getting around to organising their religion?

 

[Enriador]

Only if there is a way to make dynamic trade routes... But I haven't seen anything like this. There shouldn't be a trade route in the 768 date. Otherwise it would be a nice event after the contact started 'Trade Route established!'

Well, yeah, it isn't possible.

But can't we have the Aztec Emperor show up in 769? Not necessarily invading in 769, just saying hello!

Will the Aztec Screen only be interactable after a while?

 

[MiracleTortoise]

Wouldn't the way to handle that be to have the trade route exist for the whole game, but to have it generate 0 value until certain milestones in the Aztec conquest are achieved?

 

[black_imperator]

Well, yeah, it isn't possible.

But can't we have the Aztec Emperor show up in 769? Not necessarily invading in 769, just saying hello!

Will the Aztec Screen only be interactable after a while?

I took a look at the code and it seems the button display is controlled by a normal conditional. We can thus link it to appear only after the "first contact" event took place. As for who could interact with it, i imagine everyone with a west coastal access.

 

[Thure]

I didn't tested it, but there is a display trigger in the file for the offmap power:

    display_trigger = {
        has_dlc = "Jade Dragon"
    }

Should be easy to add a specific flag (first contact) as requirement

 

[LordPeter]

This sounds like a great idea!
Sadly, I don't have time to contribute really, but I wish you the best of luck with this endeavor. This could make Sunset Invasion an "actually fun alternate reality" instead of a "crazy doomstacks alternate reality".

 

[ngppgn]

Nice idea! I wonder what you can come up with in terms of interactions and political relations (outright conquest vs trubutaries vs pace deals).

 

[Voltspark]

I've been working on some script that allows for the creation of dynamic holy sites for religions. It might be relevant to this if you intend to flesh out the Aztecs and make their religion more interesting, considering that the Aztec holy sites at the moment are just historically important Western European provinces. I could see a system where the holy sites are determined by important interactions with the Emperor. (First province they land in, the capital of their first tributary, etc)

In terms of interactions, one of the ways to earn the Grace analogue should definitely be handing over sacrificial captives.

 

[treb]

Well, yeah, it isn't possible.

But can't we have the Aztec Emperor show up in 769? Not necessarily invading in 769, just saying hello!

Will the Aztec Screen only be interactable after a while?

you could have the trade routes exist but have the trade closed until they invade that way there of no practical use until during/after the the invasion

 

[Keitaro_Ura]

I've added an aztec government and a event that makes the aztecs wayyyy more aggressive in my personal mod. I've wanted to add them as an offmap power as well. Can't wait to see how your mod will turn out.

 

[ngppgn]

I've been working on some script that allows for the creation of dynamic holy sites for religions. It might be relevant to this if you intend to flesh out the Aztecs and make their religion more interesting, considering that the Aztec holy sites at the moment are just historically important Western European provinces. I could see a system where the holy sites are determined by important interactions with the Emperor. (First province they land in, the capital of their first tributary, etc)

In terms of interactions, one of the ways to earn the Grace analogue should definitely be handing over sacrificial captives.

Wait, can holy sites be dynamucally changed? How?

 

[SBolshevik]

Would you also add a bookmark in, say, 1251, in which the Aztec Empire's colonists would have already landed in Europe?

 

[Voltspark]

Wait, can holy sites be dynamucally changed? How?

I did some experiments during the last patch with trying to make the Holy Sites for a religion dynamic, and have some promising results. It needs work, though. What I accomplished might trigger crashes in some circumstances. (I already fixed one crash that was happening on opening the religion tab, but haven't tested the results of keeping the game running for an extended period.

I'm currently toying with updating the Santa Claus Elf invasion mod that I made a couple years ago to use Jade Dragon mechanics, and my prototype for dynamic Holy Sites will probably be included: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/mod-holly-jolly-invasion.895463/