I just saw this thread but wanted to throw my two cents in.
I am in the camp of generally more positive than negative opinions of Vic3. That being said, I have plenty of complaints, as do most of the people here. I think there is a way to contribute to constructive discussions about game mechanics, cause lord knows certain mechanics need it. I've seen a lot of that here, and that's great.
What is NOT great is some of the other energy I have seen. For example, I've seen a relatively positive thread, where people were expressing their delight at the new beta, only for someone else to chime in just to say essentially 'Must be nice for you, I think the game still sucks'-and that's just a crappy thing to do. Threads are supposed to stay relatively on topic, first of all. And if someone's enjoying the game, maybe that's not the exact right place here for you to air out your grievances and say that this game will soon be abandoned.
On the other hand, what's also crappy and immature is people resorting to rabid defenses of the game for one reason or another. I get some of where that's coming from-I have also had fears this game might not pick up enough steam, most of which have largely been abated in the last two months. But not every critique means the game is going to be confined to the dustbin of PDX games. We all have seen PDX's track record with how releases, patches, and DLC go. Even with other unmentionable titles, they didn't just throw in the towel in a matter of months. People in this camp are advised to chill just as much.
I will agree that as of late there's been a lot of animosity, which by itself is fine, but I think as humans we should all just learn to perhaps relax and channel it in a way that doesn't just create more unproductive conflict. Some people were disappointed-I am too, at some aspects. But at the end of the day, most people here aren't going to change their opinions on Vic3, or about which game in the series is better, or if they like mechanics or not. So the best we can do is just debate and suggest improvements when appropriate and try not to be vindictive towards those that disagree with us. As I said earlier, parts of this forum have gotten kind of unpleasant. It is the internet, after all, but let's all just try and be a bit more tempered and thoughtful sharing what we think?