If you had to make a choice for the last major DLC...

[loup99]

Better military system and cadet branches shouldn't be DLC features... I mean... how would you make Cadet branches DLC only? Make France unplayable because France was ruled nearly allways by Cadet dynasties?

There would be no cadet branches for those without the DLC, just like for the hordes in Horse Lords.

 

[Thure]

I'm pretty sure Paradox could get past the Mohammad issue by simply abstracting him into just a few different events. I know this would probably not be satisfactory from a gameplay perspective (since you obviously can't play as him, as he would only be vaguely mentioned through events), but if Paradox wants to avoid pissing off some people, then that's probably the best way to do it. Or Paradox could just say screw it and portray him anyway. Either option is fine.

The Problem is: Mohammed was a ruler. They can't just portrait him only by event. He was a ruler and he has a own important dynasty. How would you portrait his dynasty and the whole family connections without Mohammed? And who should rule if not he himself? He was way to important to just portrait him with events. That's not that easy.

 

[Evan05]

The Problem is: Mohammed was a ruler. They can't just portrait him only by event. He was a ruler and he has a own important dynasty. How would you portrait his dynasty and the whole family connections without Mohammed? And who should rule if not he himself? He was way to important to just portrait him with events. That's not that easy.

Get creative. When you go to try to see who the ruler is off your nation, it simply won't say, it will only show your wife(s) and kids.

I know from the gameplay side of things that would suck, because as far as the game is concerned, you would effectively just be the nameless entity overseeing the first Caliphate (kinda like how you're just the nameless entity of ruling a country in EU4 or HOI4), but it wouldn't be that hard to get around. Just think out of the box, abstract a lot, and be vague.

 

[Ezumiyr]

The Last Crusade :
- new mechanics for crusades and holy wars (disputed territories, mechanics for when big armies cross your territory and destroy everything, forced walk...)
- new dynastic mechanics, with cadet branches
- heraldry overhaul (with proper colours, more variety, and meaningful changes, with cadencies at least ofr bastard, and fusioned coats of arms for dynasties who... well, fusion)
- new navy mechanics (not necessarily proper fleet combat, but building a fleet has been great business in the Middle Ages, it should be more complicated than it is currently, including for Vikings - you should need to find the wood)
- cathedrals (long term building, very costly...)
- monasteries, or rather monastic orders (that works kinda like a hybrid of merchant republics and military orders, and more interesting than purely theorcratic governments ; can also be adapted for Indian monastic schools)

 

[Tirenedon]

What I would want is a late game DLC including the early renaissance, the introduction of gunpowder, banks, corruption mechanics, better support for the 100 years war, improved HRE, cadet branches and other general love for the late game. Currently the year 1400 feels exactly the same as the year 867, just with less Vikings.

 

[Arona]

Conquer and rule

Overhauled-Holding and building system, with ability to build on map, like build, Big walls

Resources and resource management with depleating, use resources for building

Population and economy

Inter politics

do not conquer county conquer territory like, At HOI4

Technology system with choices, cant be good at everything, must make choices.

destroy-building, holding, scorch land, salt fields, poison wells.

Train elite units- buy a retinue, Trein it tought centurys, if Unit gets viped out your process is gone, also can land your unit and form military order, cultural or religonal.

 

[Voldurak78]

Naval battles.

 

[MDHP1997]

The Last Crusade :
- new mechanics for crusades and holy wars (disputed territories, mechanics for when big armies cross your territory and destroy everything, forced walk...)
- new dynastic mechanics, with cadet branches
- heraldry overhaul (with proper colours, more variety, and meaningful changes, with cadencies at least ofr bastard, and fusioned coats of arms for dynasties who... well, fusion)
- new navy mechanics (not necessarily proper fleet combat, but building a fleet has been great business in the Middle Ages, it should be more complicated than it is currently, including for Vikings - you should need to find the wood)
- cathedrals (long term building, very costly...)
- monasteries, or rather monastic orders (that works kinda like a hybrid of merchant republics and military orders, and more interesting than purely theorcratic governments ; can also be adapted for Indian monastic schools)

On top of that I'd add a lot more military orders (Catholic Order of the Holy Sepulchre, St Lazarus and many regional orders come to mind), but in doing so, reduce the amount of troops each order has as to keep the game balanced.
Theocracies should be playable (by using the trade republic mechanic, but instead of using dynasties, use religious schools of thought).
Schism mechanics for the Great Schism and the Western Schism (also allow Catholics the ability to mend the Great Schism).

 

[Red Roo]

I've said it many times and I'll say it again. We need an INTRIGUE overhaul god dammit!



Sick of this murdering someone going along the lines of this:

Spoiler

Character: I want to kill this person; I'm going to get people to help me.

*gets co-conspirators*

Character to conspirators: Okay, we're gonna kill this guy, and here's how. I'm gonna sit here and pretend like everything is normal, and next time one of you is in a specific place at a specific time and you find a snake, or a lot of manure, or just any opportunity to have even a slight chance to kill him, come tell me and we will do it.

*Years later...*

Conspirator: My lord, an opportunity has arisen to-

Character: DO IT!

Conspirator: But my lord, you haven't even let me explain!

Character: JUST DO IT!!

Conspirator: My lord! It's the kings son you plan to murder! Mayhaps if we had actually gathered in a darkly lit room wearing hoods and devising plans we would see more success?

Character: MAKE! MY DREAMS! COME TRUE!!!

Conspirator: My lord, it is an inn full of manure, it likely won't succeed! And the king is sure to discover you, even if it does, let alone if you fail! Please, see reason!

Character: SOME PEOPLE DREAM OF SUCCESS BUT YOU'RE GOING TO WAKE UP AND WORK HARD AT IT! JUST DOOOOOOO IT! NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE!!!!

Conspirator: Yes my liege...

*Plot fails*

Shia LaBeouf has been imprisoned by King Charles of West Francia.

 

[Rationalsanity]

This game is based on feudalism. And people want to introduce stsrt dates that pre date feudalism by centuries...why?

Charlemagne was already pushing it in terms of balance and accuracy. Anything further back would be a farce.

 

[Nirmara]

Focus on the late game and internal management with trade good to portrait the specialization of the medieval economy, gunpowder, universities and monastic orders, new tech system, new building system, cadet branches.

 

[MDHP1997]

This game is based on feudalism. And people want to introduce stsrt dates that pre date feudalism by centuries...why?

Charlemagne was already pushing it in terms of balance and accuracy. Anything further back would be a farce.

I think they should add more start dates in between the current ones rather than further beforehand. I'd like a Brunanburh start date, and an Anarchy start date.

 

[lordreaven448]

Playable Holy orders would be fun. Carving out a state with the Pope backing you is always good, look at the Teutonic Knights.

 

[RagingJaws]

This game is based on feudalism. And people want to introduce start dates that pre date feudalism by centuries...why?

Charlemagne was already pushing it in terms of balance and accuracy. Anything further back would be a farce.

It's that filthy EU:Rome 2 crowd. They want CKII pushed as far back as possible, their nefarious plot calls for the start date to be 472, with most of Continental Europe tribal excluding Soissions and mainland Italy.

 

[BeyondExpectation]

I would like this: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...lam-new-govts-bookmark-cadet-branches.905195/

An intrigue DLC would be great, but it should be a lesser one.

 

[shiro the bushi]

It's that filthy EU:Rome 2 crowd. They want CKII pushed as far back as possible, their nefarious plot calls for the start date to be 472, with most of Continental Europe tribal excluding Soissions and mainland Italy.

ave maria, how do we stop these babarians from plaguing us?

 

[Robert II]

ave maria, how do we stop these babarians from plaguing us?

With faith and when that fails fire and swords.

 

[Alvis14]

Am i the only one who would have loved to play as a baron ? With the deeper gameplay the baronnies would require, it would be great. ATM we don't have many interactions with them...

 

[TheDungen]

If I have to chose, map expansion before pushing the start date further back. CM and TOG are to far back already, I would prefer CK deal with the period from Manzikert to the reformation.

 

[Rationalsanity]

Am i the only one who would have loved to play as a baron ? With the deeper gameplay the baronnies would require, it would be great. ATM we don't have many interactions with them...

Playing as a Baron would be about as deep as a puddle. And more events for inconsequential rulers would overtax the engine for no benefit.