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Actually they would not have de jure drifted to Brittania since Empress Victoria created the title of India, making it immune to de jure drifts.

If that's the case though, Britannia still has the Empire of India title, because Republics can't usurp Kingdom or Empire titles.
 

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If that's the case though, Britannia still has the Empire of India title, because Republics can't usurp Kingdom or Empire titles.

They did not usurp it, they were granted it, which would automatically make them independent-
 

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2017: Empress Elizabeth of Britannia declares de jure war for Dublin on Serene Doge Enda of Ireland.
2027: Empress Elizabeth of Britannia declares de jure war for Tyrconnel on Serene Doge Enda of Ireland.

She will still be alive in 2027? That must mean she's actually immortal, but will unfortunately be slain in 2028 leading her army in the last battle of the de jure war over Tyrconnel...
 

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She will still be alive in 2027? That must mean she's actually immortal, but will unfortunately be slain in 2028 leading her army in the last battle of the de jure war over Tyrconnel...

Yeah, I was gonna say, at Lizzy's age, she'd be dead within days of unpausing...so would Charles for that matter.
 

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The real reason why Hitler killed himself was because he was so far gone that he thought doing so would invalidate CB and end the war in a White Peace.

He was clearly wrong.


Or was he?
 

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The crown of Wales was destroyed many years ago and the duchies inside de jure drifted to England.

Not quite correct yourself. k_wales is always given to the heir to e_great britain at birth to help limit the effects of the short reign penalty (since the Welsh nobles would actually have a long reign bonus) and build up stewardship stats. Being king tier this doesn't result in independence and always being held by the heir to e_great britain it always gets inherited when the holder of k_wales becomes the holder of e_great britain. This creates the impression in political map mode that k_wales doesn't exist but if you double click on wales (assuming the holder of e_great britain has a child as an heir, otherwise they hold the title) you'll see that it's held by a king tier caricature and not a duke or the holder of e_great britain.

Maybe you're confused by the title of prince? Wales is a principality and so king gets localized as prince.
 

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She will still be alive in 2027? That must mean she's actually immortal, but will unfortunately be slain in 2028 leading her army in the last battle of the de jure war over Tyrconnel...

Eh, she'd be 101. I've seen characters live longer than that. She's probably abusing the health bonuses you can get from being a hermetic or somesuch.

They did not usurp it, they were granted it, which would automatically make them independent-
That would have given them control over Pakistan. Given that it became immediately independent, it seems more likely that they were two multi-king vassals granted independence (possible, since they weren't the same religion). Serene Doge Jawaharlal quickly formed a custom empire and used the customiser to change the name to India.
 
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Oops, double post.
 

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Eh, she'd be 101. I've seen characters live longer than that. She's probably abusing the health bonuses you can get from being a hermetic or somesuch.


That would have given them control over Pakistan. Given that it became immediately independent, it seems more likely that they were two multi-king vassals granted independence (possible, since they weren't the same religion). Serene Doge Jawaharlal quickly formed a custom empire and used the customiser to change the name to India.

Not a problem if Pakistan was granted independence first.
 

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Maybe she does have the immortal trait...? o_O
I know you're joking but at the rate the ol' girl is going I'm convinced that I will see my own grandchild before I see the next British monarch...
 

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Her portrait changed though. Immortal characters keep the look they had when they got immortality, don't they?
The real reason why Hitler killed himself was because he was so far gone that he thought doing so would invalidate CB and end the war in a White Peace.

He was clearly wrong.

Or was he?
Of course he was. He pressed a De Jure claim for Danzig, not a personnal one, so it was still valid when Dönitz inherited the Empire.
 
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Of course he was. He pressed a De Jure claim for Danzig, not a personnal one, so it was still valid when Dönitz inherited the Empire.
I think it was more like a Nazist Holy War. It made everyone but his allies join the defender, after all
 

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I know you're joking but at the rate the ol' girl is going I'm convinced that I will see my own grandchild before I see the next British monarch...

Her mother lived to be over 100. She certainly has the potential to. Honestly, I find it more likely for her to outlive Charles than the other way around.
 

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I think it was more like a Nazist Holy War. It made everyone but his allies join the defender, after all
Wasn't that a Defensive Pact? The invasion of Czechoslovakia must have generated quite a bit of threat.
 

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Well if it makes you feel any better she actually DID change her succession laws to be true cognatic.

Good point! Totally forgot about that. I was actually more than a little disappointed when George was born before Charlotte because we don't get to see the law in action just yet.
 

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Wasn't that a Defensive Pact? The invasion of Czechoslovakia must have generated quite a bit of threat.
Well, then, obviously the Nazi Manifest Destiny Invasion of the Soviet Empire was an entirely separate war. Though there must've been some kind of modding done if the Brits and French could keep fighting after the primary defender was defeated.

ETA: On second thought, maybe Grand Prince Adolf just chained Manifest Destiny Invasions and finally ran out of steam because the amphibious assault terrain penalties were prohibitive.
 

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He probably chained invasions - Poland, then France, then UK, with USSR at the same time - and seeing that the ticking warscore and battle warscore was approaching -100% WS, he decided to try and troll everyone by invalidating the war.