If Life gave Hitler a second chance,what must he do for Germany to gain a favourable outcome in WW2?

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Vukodav

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In hindsight, to win he could just leave Jews alone. Germany had greatest theoretical physicists before the war, however oppression of Jews made best of them (eg. Einstein, Heisenberg) leave or saboage work on the nuclear bomb. If he focused on nuclear bomb before the war, he could have conquer the whole world easily.

Einstein was not good at what it took to build a bomb. He did write a famous paper with the relation between energy and mass but that is theory work. And that is where his contribution in the nuclear physics stopped. He was a cosmologist for the most part, not a nuclear scientist or engineer for that matter.

The myth of the Heisenberg sabotage was only presented in a single book that has since been refuted. He did not sabotage the program, he made a mistake. After the bomb on Hiroshima he made the calculations again and made another mistake, and only in the third time he got them right. And Heisenberg was not a Jew, he actually was a German nationalist (his words) although not a Nazi. He did want to build it, Army did not want it as it would take too long and they estimated that the war would be over faster. Heisenberg even wanted to bring Bohr to work with his team - that is how the word got out in the first place as the Bohr was the main guy in that field at the time and everyone was in contact with him, including the USA scientists.

Einstein could not know for himself about the bomb project he wrote the president about, as he left 6 years before it. He was told about it by his European friends.

But even if Germany allocated the resources from missile project to the bomb project and got the bomb by 1943 (they started in 1939, three years before the USA), it would not change a thing. By that time the Germany was losing the war and two or three nukes would not change a thing even if Germany could throw them.

And he could not focus on the bomb before the war in order to have more of them, simply because the fission was only discovered in 1938 and the results were published in 1939. So a few months later the project started... so did the war.

So, in retrospect, his treatment of certain populations did nothing to influence the creation of the nuclear bomb. The only reason Germany did not finish it is because A) the army did not want to fund it (they could, missile project cost as much as Manhattan project) and B) German team made a few mistakes that they did not have the time nor the incentive to fix. From the 1939, almost from the start, the German bomb was doomed and the project continued more or less on the theoretical basis for the future after the war. The army thought the war would end soon, it was only one more push, one more attack and the enemy will break, so the nuke never got the attention it needed. In the end, both missile project and nuclear bomb project were useless to Germany (those resources would be much better spent on more factories and mines) but a huge thing after the war for others who got their hands on their tech.

You should conquer the world first and build fancy things for it later ;)
 

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Antchluss>> munich czech accept italy yougoslavia hungary romania into Axis end of story. I mean stop here the gamble. Dont make molotov pact. hold peace with Allies. If soviets attack Poland, side the allies in a great crusade against soviets win the war create Europe... profit
 
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Antchluss>> munich czech accept italy yougoslavia hungary romania into Axis end of story. I mean stop here the gamble. Dont make molotov pact. hold peace with Allies. If soviets attack Poland, side the allies in a great crusade against soviets win the war create Europe... profit
That actually sounds like it could work.
After the soviets are defeated, Germany just tells its everything theirs and the allies can't do really anything against it, later it invades the west, done.

How about using failsafes in mines?
How ironic to see this video that shows how crucial fuel is/was in real life...
Anyway, I don't agree with it, the mine has to be delivered, the mine has to be in certain locations to be useful and certainly the allies would find a way to sweep this mines.
 

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Stalin wouldn`t have invade Poland without MR pact. MR pact specifically said Soviets will attack Poland 2 weeks after the Germans. See, Stalin is not dumb.
 

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Germany would have had a far better chance of controlling Europe if the following had happened:

1. I know that it is outside this discussion, but go to a full war economy in 1937. Churchill's comment on war production applies (the first year nothing, the second a trickle, the third all you want). Concentrate on subs, fighters, trucks and tanks - the Pzkw IV, and put a long gun on it. Prioritize your research on rockets, jets, radar/electronic warfare and sub technologies (and nuclear technology, but that would have resulted in much less robust research into other, more urgent, priorities).

Germany went to full war economy long before 1937. By June of 1933 the Nazis were doing their level best to turn the German economy into something whose sole purpose was the funnelling of men and material into a fighting army. By 1936 the economy was in full war production mode, having gone so far as removing railings from gardens and bells from churches just to try and get enough steel for weapons.

People would soon figure out how impossible it was for Germany to win once they realised that every annexation from the Saar onwards was because of an attempt to stay the death of a German economy unable to match the demands the Nazis were working it towards, up to and including the invasion of Russia. The country literally didn't have the industrial capacity, financial capacity, access to raw materials, work force, or military manpower to do what Hitler was making it do, eventually Germany would have keeled over and died from its own efforts even if it faced up against a bunch of incompetents.