If it really isn't Victoria III...

[sander9702]

Honestly, the hints are suppose to be all in good fun (as well as build interest).

Getting upset to the point of making an "open letter" (which this is not) on the companies internet forum might be a sign you need to step away and get some fresh air. Games aren't worth that level of emotional distress.

Yeah no I don't think my tone came of in writing like it did in my head, I was going for constructive and jokey but people seem to perceive it as whiny and emotional.
Just thought I'd chime in my thoughts while I had some spare time.

 

[dav77-b]

I said publicly when we started sellling tickets that "THIS IS NOT VICTORIA 3!"

Did you want angels tattoing it on your retina as well?

So Victoria 3 confirmed?

 

[vyshan]

I said publicly when we started sellling tickets that "THIS IS NOT VICTORIA 3!"

Did you want angels tattoing it on your retina as well?

Yes?

 

[Egiel]

I said publicly when we started sellling tickets that "THIS IS NOT VICTORIA 3!"

Did you want angels tattoing it on your retina as well?

 

[Sanny]

I said publicly when we started sellling tickets that "THIS IS NOT VICTORIA 3!"

Did you want angels tattoing it on your retina as well?

POTM worthy

 

[steve.bd]

Sad but truuuuue

 

[Quantum_AI]

Well.... somebody has to (this is tongue-in-cheek btw).

May 18th, 2018 is a day I will always remember. It was the day I became cynical, bitter, and distraught. You may call it an overreaction for me to feel this way simply because of the business practices of a single video game company, but let me explain what all of this means to me.

My retinas were thrown off balance and I never regained my footing after that day, because I lost my ability to respect. An essential part of being human is to feel respect for those who may or may not be deserving of it. But it is equally human to feel painful disillusionment when someone or something you respected turns out to be much less than you thought. But the level of betrayal I felt when Johan announced that their new game was not Victoria III tore something from me that I'll never be able to recover. They tore away my ability to respect anything, and they tore away my ability to feel human.

Paradox Interactive was a company I respected, and their employees were people I looked up to. Crusader Kings, Europa Universalis, Victoria, and Hearts of Iron were all quality game series that combined historical accuracy with sandbox game worlds, and most importantly, these games actually existed because Paradox decided to make them. These games may have been cartoony and humorous at times, but deep down they always existed and were crafted with a level of detail and skill that won appreciation from gamers and minorities all across the internet. EU4 was once their newest release, and the internet was in unanimous agreement that it was of unparallelled quality. Following it's long awaited release, Paradox began releasing quality games that raised the bar ever higher for Grand Strategy Games.

Then not Victoria III was announced. This was not just not an announcement of a new game, it was announcement of Paradox Interactive's suicide. It was a game intended to completely disregard Norway, and instead shock the entire world with its lunacy and easy spelling. Paradox Interactive had gone off the deep end and raised the middle finger (flipped the bard one may say) to everybody who stayed loyal to them. They had announced that they didn't care anymore, that they didn't care for their community, and they were going to go out of their way to sabotage everything they had spent years creating.

The pain I felt from this betrayal has destroyed me on an emotional level, and has deprived me of my primary source of entertainment. No longer can I play Grand Strategy games without remembering the day I ceased mattering to people I devoted myself to. I felt like I was there, but not their most important customer. Paradox had not just destroyed me or their company, they had destroyed the one force of stability in the world: popular demand.

We were lost and battered, weighed down by dragons and denials but you have given us NEW hope!! VICKY 3 CONFIRMEEEEED!

 

[shafii777]

The antiquity is a boring era (earlier ages (Bronze Age, Chalcolithic and also the Neolithic) are however interesting but not really connectable with a grand strategy game), I hope they don't announce Rome Universalis. There is not even a need for that since there is a pretty good mod for EU4 (even with new troop models etc.). A cold war game as big part of the "Anti-Victoria" crowd screams is also not a good idea. The Cold war is a boring age with even more boring political constellations. How can people of that crowd shamelessly claim that Victoria 3 would not be very successfull and demand in the same breath a game in the Cold War era?

I hope for Victoria 3 or a completely new game in the style of CK2 but it a later epoch (like Renaissance/Barock to Victorian). But I think non of these will be announced.

 

[Seven Sulivin]

I said publicly when we started sellling tickets that "THIS IS NOT VICTORIA 3!"

Did you want angels tattoing it on your retina as well?

I apologise for the people who seems to think it’s Vicky 3. They really want it, and so they seems to not believe anything that says they won’t get it. I’m really sorry, must be a pain to deal with.

 

[Fishman786]

I said publicly when we started sellling tickets that "THIS IS NOT VICTORIA 3!"

Did you want angels tattoing it on your retina as well?

Hmm...

"angels", "tattoos", "retina", "well"

Firstly, "angels" is definitely a clear and obvious reference to Pope Gregory's famous "they are not Angles but Angels" remark. We know that the English slave-boys who were the subject of this remark came from Northumbria, which ruled much of northern England at the time. Modern northern England has a long history of socialist agitation and support for the Labour Party, whose traditional colour is red. This conjecture is backed up by the strong, too-strong-to-be-coincidental similarity between the word "angels" and the name "Engels", the famous socialist writer. Those of us who are clued up on history will be aware that amongst other things, Julius Caesar was under suspicion for wearing red boots. And what was he under suspicion for? For wanting to become a king and wear a crown. Which leads us to the next point.

Tattoos are a kind of indelible mark on the skin. A tattoo cannot be rubbed off, it simply can't. You must resort to cutting it off, or in more modern times burning it off with a laser. Most people understand lasers as being more of a hint for a science fiction game, but actually they've got a lot of relevance to this theory too. You see, lasers are orderly. Photons of light marching in step with the same wavelength, moving in the same direction. And how do we get humans to walk in the same direction, the correct direction? By using a compass, and it should be obvious that a compass only points north.

Retina? What does that have to do with anything, I hear you ask. The retina's importance is twofold. Firstly it's part of the eye, and secondly it's the part of the eye that images are projected on. Regarding the eye, we can see in the English language that the letter "i" sounds exactly like "eye". Which countries start with the letter "i"? Lots of them. Iran. India. Ireland. Iraq. Italy. Indonesia. But the only obvious one that fits the clues is Iceland. Why Iceland? Because like the retina which has images projected onto it from outside, Iceland is the only one of those countries which was colonised from the outside in historical times. All of the other countries that start with "i" have indigenous populations, but Iceland's civilisation was "projected" into it. By whom? The Scandinavians. The Norse.

The final obvious clue (and really anyone will get this one) is "well". A well is usually a place you can get water from, but that's a red herring. Instead focus on something else. Instead look at the very common food that we all know and love, the bakewell tart. Bake-well tart. The bakewell tart is an English dish, bringing the connection to the angles back again (surely no coincidence that the town of Bakewell was part of the Kingdom of Mercia, an Angle kingdom as opposed to a Saxon one), and it also alters us to the crucial fact that the most famous tart-making company in England is called "Mr Kipling." Mr Kipling is a fictional personality but he shares his name with the legendary Rudyard Kipling, Anglo-Indian author and storyteller. Where in India did Kipling roam? He was born in Bombay, but this was as far south as he went. Most of his time in India was spend in the north, serving the Crown.

By now it should be clear as daylight that this clue is a hint that the new game will be none other than a sequel to Crown of the North.

 

[Wagonlitz]

Sad but truuuuue

POTM

Edit: I already nominated something.

 

[Fishman786]

POTM

Pretty sure we established that copy-pasting doesn't make something POTM quality...

 

[viola]

I said publicly when we started sellling tickets that "THIS IS NOT VICTORIA 3!"

Did you want angels tattoing it on your retina as well?

"THIS IS [...] VICTORIA 3!"

Victoria III just confirmed!?!?

/s

 

[.Hobbes]

An open letter for Johan.
Why would you play with our emotions like that, making the first hint "Is it popular demand" an obvious hint to the Victoria II mod, and then with the minorities and religion hints. You know that Victoria fans have been waiting for a long time to see Victoria III release and to mislead us like that is just a ding-dong move.
I will still love and support your games but it will definitely make me feel less excited for whatever the *other* game will be if it's true. It would have been better to just cross out a Victoria sequel in the first hints and right now the only hints that actually go against this game being Vicky 3 are "Norway on the map" and the last hint. I know you wrote on twitter that it won't be Victoria III or even a Victoria sequel with a different name, but for all we know you could just be messing with us to make us even more excited when Victoria III is announced.

Just something to think about in the future.
Du är en grym och ondskefull man Johan...

Anyone who still believed in Vicky 3 after they explicitly said it not being announced, set up themselves for disappointment. You only have yourself to blame.

 

[pizzapicante27]

I said publicly when we started sellling tickets that "THIS IS NOT VICTORIA 3!"

Did you want angels tattoing it on your retina as well?

Aha! now I can quote Johan: "...VICTORIA 3! Did you want angels tattoing it on your retina as well?"

 

[Mantis42]

It's Rome 2. Except unlike the original they've expanded the map to include the entire world, while moving the timeline up to the early 19th century.

 

[Cephei80]

Hmm...

"angels", "tattoos", "retina", "well"

Firstly, "angels" is definitely a clear and obvious reference to Pope Gregory's famous "they are not Angles but Angels" remark. We know that the English slave-boys who were the subject of this remark came from Northumbria, which ruled much of northern England at the time. Modern northern England has a long history of socialist agitation and support for the Labour Party, whose traditional colour is red. This conjecture is backed up by the strong, too-strong-to-be-coincidental similarity between the word "angels" and the name "Engels", the famous socialist writer. Those of us who are clued up on history will be aware that amongst other things, Julius Caesar was under suspicion for wearing red boots. And what was he under suspicion for? For wanting to become a king and wear a crown. Which leads us to the next point.

Tattoos are a kind of indelible mark on the skin. A tattoo cannot be rubbed off, it simply can't. You must resort to cutting it off, or in more modern times burning it off with a laser. Most people understand lasers as being more of a hint for a science fiction game, but actually they've got a lot of relevance to this theory too. You see, lasers are orderly. Photons of light marching in step with the same wavelength, moving in the same direction. And how do we get humans to walk in the same direction, the correct direction? By using a compass, and it should be obvious that a compass only points north.

Retina? What does that have to do with anything, I hear you ask. The retina's importance is twofold. Firstly it's part of the eye, and secondly it's the part of the eye that images are projected on. Regarding the eye, we can see in the English language that the letter "i" sounds exactly like "eye". Which countries start with the letter "i"? Lots of them. Iran. India. Ireland. Iraq. Italy. Indonesia. But the only obvious one that fits the clues is Iceland. Why Iceland? Because like the retina which has images projected onto it from outside, Iceland is the only one of those countries which was colonised from the outside in historical times. All of the other countries that start with "i" have indigenous populations, but Iceland's civilisation was "projected" into it. By whom? The Scandinavians. The Norse.

The final obvious clue (and really anyone will get this one) is "well". A well is usually a place you can get water from, but that's a red herring. Instead focus on something else. Instead look at the very common food that we all know and love, the bakewell tart. Bake-well tart. The bakewell tart is an English dish, bringing the connection to the angles back again (surely no coincidence that the town of Bakewell was part of the Kingdom of Mercia, an Angle kingdom as opposed to a Saxon one), and it also alters us to the crucial fact that the most famous tart-making company in England is called "Mr Kipling." Mr Kipling is a fictional personality but he shares his name with the legendary Rudyard Kipling, Anglo-Indian author and storyteller. Where in India did Kipling roam? He was born in Bombay, but this was as far south as he went. Most of his time in India was spend in the north, serving the Crown.

By now it should be clear as daylight that this clue is a hint that the new game will be none other than a sequel to Crown of the North.

thats how false prophets are made . turning their 2 lines quote into a book . of course i mean no one from the 3 .

 

[Zyffyr]

Oh please, they are taking a page from the playbooks of several major tech companies and unifying version numbers across product lines. To do that they have to skip Vicky 3 and go straight to Vicky 4.

 

[thedarkendstar]

Im still waiting on podcat stimulator I never got it and I demand it now!!!

 

[ikki]

Honestly, the hints are suppose to be all in good fun (as well as build interest).

Getting upset to the point of making an "open letter" (which this is not) on the companies internet forum might be a sign you need to step away and get some fresh air. Games aren't worth that level of emotional distress.

>(C)
here have this sideways hanging medal of self-control. I was almost writing a much longer text with many "goddamn", "for childrens sake" and "what the Blorg does it take for you to.." etc.