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It's going to be big! Must be playable courtiers :D with lots of cool events... (Don't mind me, just dreaming :)

You dream of staring at your screen and doing next to nothing until you get a random event? You can do that without paying for DLC, it's called living in your mom's basement and not getting a job.
 

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Why not just release a pagan + Republics DLC.

That would be a disaster. They shouldn't combo DLCs because people who want pagans but don't want republics would whine they are paying for republics, and people who want republics but no pagans would whine as well. It would be a complete whinefest all around. It goes against the whole point in moving from an expansion to a DLC model.
 

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That would be a disaster. They shouldn't combo DLCs because people who want pagans but don't want republics would whine they are paying for republics, and people who want republics but no pagans would whine as well. It would be a complete whinefest all around. It goes against the whole point in moving from an expansion to a DLC model.

I mean release them at the same time, not necessarily as a bundle.
 

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Been playing the modded pagans since the game came out often, so of course I am interested :D. People asked the attraction - the attraction is the harder game. If the start date gets reduced a few hundred years to turn the tables, I may switch to a different religion.

You dream of staring at your screen and doing next to nothing until you get a random event? You can do that without paying for DLC, it's called living in your mom's basement and not getting a job.

That would depend wouldn't it, are we allowed to form holy orders, monasteries, bands of knights or mercenaries and go on crusade for our own chance at land? Independent famous characters is how I would do it, there are a few around the map that go to the highest bidder, or the most pious, or the most prestigious.

You can take any concept and make it more interesting, or reduce it.
 

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I am for anything that adds more playable counties, I cannot stand the map layout of Empires, So I am limited on who I can play. I would pay $5.99 just for a new overlay that makes the blobs look less blobby!! That being said, this game is not about history, it is about rewriting history, so why not pagans? Who is to say in your new History the pagans cannot win?
 

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I'm all about overhauling the Northern Pagans, it's just kinda silly how early they are destroyed currently.
 

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Heres to hoping for the pagan dlc :)

Btw I remember reading somewhere during what period the next dlc would be released, but cant remember when it was, does someone have any intel on this?
 

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Pagan DLC would be something that would actually make sense for this game... much better than fantasy based crap like Aztek invasion.

And the pagans arent the weaklings people are making them appear... the mongols ARE pagan for instance... And they are no softies.
 

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It is very clear it will be a Pagan dlc. They say the dlc will be just as important as the rise of islam. Only the pagans hold enough land for it to be comparable to that.

I would bet my life saving that it is the Pagan dlc.
 

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Heres to hoping for the pagan dlc :)

Btw I remember reading somewhere during what period the next dlc would be released, but cant remember when it was, does someone have any intel on this?

Johan said in a interview that they hope for it to be released around new years.
 

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You dream of staring at your screen and doing next to nothing until you get a random event? You can do that without paying for DLC, it's called living in your mom's basement and not getting a job.

Who needs a job? The government will pay for us "poor unemployed folk" while we "work" trying to find a job ;)
 

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It is very clear it will be a Pagan dlc. They say the dlc will be just as important as the rise of islam. Only the pagans hold enough land for it to be comparable to that.

I would bet my life saving that it is the Pagan dlc.

You actually think pagans were as important to this period as Muslims? Size isn't everything. Historically pagans spent this time period being forcefully converted.
 

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You actually think pagans were as important to this period as Muslims? Size isn't everything. Historically pagans spent this time period being forcefully converted.



Yeah well at that period, the Mongols, who were pagans, conquered the greatest "one piece" (in opposition with the british colonial one) empire ever seen on earth. All the land between China and Poland was under their rule. That is something I would call " important ".
 

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The decline of paganism was hardly a foregone conclusion at game start though. It was still strong in Scandinavia. And even if they'd be, well, more interesting Pagan mechanics would make for better gameplay not only for them but for Christian states in the vicinity too.
 

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For the record, I don't want to play as Pagans, Republics or Theocracies. The game couldn't handle them well enough IMO, and it wouldn't make any difference to the game if you don't play as them.

On the other hand a DLC that added lots of interactions with them, now that I could get on board with. Things like hiring merchant fleets, arranging a coup d'etat in a neighbouring republic, sending missionaries into pagan territory, having your younger son join the church, and later he becomes Pope - the sort of thing that makes a neighbouring republic feel like a republic, not just another feudal state with different inheritance laws.

I think some things (especially College of Cardinals) are surely inevitable, I just hope Paradox doesn't fall into the trap of letting you play as, say, a republic, because I don't see how that could be a a particularly fulfilling or well-fleshed-out role...