Ideas for Units needed

[Lyrecryer]

I am trying to fill up as many user made units/brigades as I can but I'm stuck on what to add. I already added a Heavy Tank division. Basically throw as many ideas as you can and if possible add a picture as well. Anything goes.

Have Fun!

 

[Hirz]

#I would suggest to add SS Divisions (motorized ,mechanized ,armored , mountain and infantry) -I know these divisions are already included in Fernando´s WIF mod but in my opinion they are to weak and fit only with those Waffen Divisions der SS which fought behind the lines, SS Divisions like LSAH or Das Reich were divisions with special training and high combat experience
#Brandenburger Elite Divisions
#Panzer Lehr Division with enormous experience (I would suggest to get this unit by an event)
#Light infantry (Jäger)

 

[Sechrima]

I concur with Hirz's recommendations.

I would also like to be able to attach a 'brigade' of CAS to armoured divisions.

 

[Hirz]

I´m not sure but is there a brigade like super heavy artillery, which is very good at defending an amphibious assault!?

 

[novapaddy]

I sat down with a pen and paper. I already had 2 more units in mind. Very quickly I had another 7 units written down.

Guys, you need to stop thinking of new UNITS...

.. and start thinking of what have I got?
... what units would go really well in that war..?
... what has been left out, so far?

What battles occur... yeah that type of unit would be very useful, or has been ignored...

.. I suggest you come from the other direction altogether.

EDIT:
For instance:
.. I already have in Homeland, a Super Garrison Brigade which mimics the JAP island defence units, small in number, but huge in capability, but tied to that island.. locked!
.. but, wouldn't a Super Garrision Division go well in the Soviet Union, would certainly give those attacking SS panzer units something to think about.. and the player..??

.. let's see... an Italian Fascist Blackshirt Brigade... a Soviet inspired, Revoluntionary Socialist International Brigade... get the idea??

.. O P E N Y O U R M I N D

 

[Hirz]

what about a spy unit which consists only of a single person ....an agent this unit is able to stay in an enemy country and can´t be fought furthermore this unit would be able to spot how many divisions are in which province and maybe could give attacking divisions a bonus -I don´t know if it´s possible to realice such an unit but i think that this would be quite revolutionary

 

[novapaddy]

what about a spy unit which consists only of a single person ....an agent this unit is able to stay in an enemy country and can´t be fought furthermore this unit would be able to spot how many divisions are in which province and maybe could give attacking divisions a bonus -I don´t know if it´s possible to realice such an unit but i think that this would be quite revolutionary

I had this idea a while back. I even had "invisible" counters, to mimic him hiding behind enemy lines. But it isn't possible to have a counter NOT be detected by other counters.. I asked MartinBG.

.. but if you can think of another way... ?

 

[Hirz]

and it´s not possible to create a new kind of army type ...for example: air, land, naval, and spy? This would solve the probleme wouldn´t!?

 

[novapaddy]

and it´s not possible to create a new kind of army type ...for example: air, land, naval, and spy? This would solve the probleme wouldn´t!?

AFAIK, it has to be land/naval/air...??

 

[Geredis]

Instead of a spy, why not an observation aircraft unit, along the lines of the Fi156, the L-2 Grasshopper, the Po-2, etc? Slow, unmanoeuvrable, aircraft with high vulnerabilities to ground attacks than other aircraft by virtue, of course, of their low-altitude flying more than anything; with relatively high detection values.

Might be better actually to add these as a brigade for CAS or TAC units though, on second-thought, increases their softness and vulnerabilities in exchange for greater morale and/or org? They'd be an interesting alternative to slapping escorts on everything once escort ranges aren't so debilitating.

 

[Lyrecryer]

Right I got to start replying now:

#I would suggest to add SS Divisions (motorized ,mechanized ,armored , mountain and infantry) -I know these divisions are already included in Fernando´s WIF mod but in my opinion they are to weak and fit only with those Waffen Divisions der SS which fought behind the lines, SS Divisions like LSAH or Das Reich were divisions with special training and high combat experience
#Brandenburger Elite Divisions
#Panzer Lehr Division with enormous experience (I would suggest to get this unit by an event)
#Light infantry (Jäger)

I don't think I can really do SS Divisions "justice" but I will see what I can do. The Panzer Lehr division seems interesting but is it an elite Tank Division I think you can do it already.
Light Infantry is mostly in the game as Mountain troops I think.

I concur with Hirz's recommendations.

I would also like to be able to attach a 'brigade' of CAS to armoured divisions.

That would be interesting to see. I try to get that sorted.

I´m not sure but is there a brigade like super heavy artillery, which is very good at defending an amphibious assault!?

I think it's in game already.

what about a spy unit which consists only of a single person ....an agent this unit is able to stay in an enemy country and can´t be fought furthermore this unit would be able to spot how many divisions are in which province and maybe could give attacking divisions a bonus -I don´t know if it´s possible to realice such an unit but i think that this would be quite revolutionary

That would be impossible as the Spy will single handily take over entire provinces if it goes anywhere. Doesn't the Spy System do that sort of thing? but increasing a divsion recon would be a good idea.

and it´s not possible to create a new kind of army type ...for example: air, land, naval, and spy? This would solve the probleme wouldn´t!?

Only Air/Land/Navy can be used. the engine would collapse into a heap if you can add entirely new systems willy-nilly.

Instead of a spy, why not an observation aircraft unit, along the lines of the Fi156, the L-2 Grasshopper, the Po-2, etc? Slow, unmanoeuvrable, aircraft with high vulnerabilities to ground attacks than other aircraft by virtue, of course, of their low-altitude flying more than anything; with relatively high detection values.

Might be better actually to add these as a brigade for CAS or TAC units though, on second-thought, increases their softness and vulnerabilities in exchange for greater morale and/or org? They'd be an interesting alternative to slapping escorts on everything once escort ranges aren't so debilitating.

That would be a good idea. I just thought of a Fake Infantry/Tank unit now. It was good at deceiving Air Recon's into reporting far higher numbers than normal. Although it was not known just how many was deployed but an estimate was around 30,000 Fake Tanks and 200,000 Fake Infantry.

 

[lanodaka]

zeppelin aircraft carriers

they are from a terrible movie but I like the idea

 

[Kretoxian]

My two ideas are not as interesting as the spammer's ones but here they go:

-Colonial infantry division/regiment: Better organized than a militia but still not as good as a regular infantry division
-Camel cavalry division/regiment: I don't think it's possible but they should have a speed bonus when moving through deserts and a penalty when moving outside of deserts.
-Diferentiate between square and triangular infantry divisions.

 

[Lyrecryer]

My two ideas are not as interesting as the spammer's ones but here they go:

-Colonial infantry division/regiment: Better organized than a militia but still not as good as a regular infantry division
-Camel cavalry division/regiment: I don't think it's possible but they should have a speed bonus when moving through deserts and a penalty when moving outside of deserts.
-Diferentiate between square and triangular infantry divisions.

Colonial Infantry sounds good and It is possible to make a Camel Cavalry Division go faster in deserts and likewise.

I do not understand the last one though. I will include a Ugg-Boots unit however as there seems to be a high demand.

 

[Sechrima]

How about a City Guard division? Basically an elite Garrison unit with improved bonuses for urban combat. Also, zeppelin/airship aircraft carriers would be a lot of fun. I second that recommendation.

 

[Kretoxian]

Colonial Infantry sounds good and It is possible to make a Camel Cavalry Division go faster in deserts and likewise.

I do not understand the last one though. I will include a Ugg-Boots unit however as there seems to be a high demand.

Maybe it's nitpicking but a square division has 4 regiments, like many japanese ones and triangular divisions are those having 3 regiments.

What's an Ugg-Boot?

 

[Lyrecryer]

A spammer was spamming Ugg-boots. When you mean regiments you mean brigades yes?

 

[LiamRiordan]

How about scout planes attached directly to land units? This would provide better organization and slightly improvements to defence since the ground troops can actively gain intelligence on the fly from their air scouts.

EDIT:

Better amphibious tanks for marines perhaps? It would improve their amphibious assault efficiency and cut down the penalty of river crossing some more. Since putting the troops into say a well protected amphibious APC then deploying is better than the traditional loaders.

 

[Geredis]

zeppelin aircraft carriers

they are from a terrible movie but I like the idea

Actually, zeppelins period, as bombers, carriers (both troop and as aerial aircraft launchers maybe), and especially aerial supply lines.

 

[Kretoxian]

A spammer was spamming Ugg-boots. When you mean regiments you mean brigades yes?

Yes.