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Didn't Arabian/Slavic nationalism exist in the Ottoman Empire within the time-frame?
Not the kind of pan-Slavic nationalism needed to underpin the notion of Yugoslavia.
 

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How do you form it then? I've never seen it in game or even the decision.
http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/British_nation
It's called simply Great Britain as long names don't work very nicely in-game, but it gives cores on all of Britain and Ireland.
Maybe it should be formable for both Sicily and Naples then when you get southern Italy.
Sardinia-Piedmont is in, so I don't see why not. Actually makes me wonder why there is no tag for it already.
I know it would be ridiculously powerful :p but had France won the Spanish war of the Spanish war of Succession then it would have formed. Maybe there should be a massive downside to it like everyone gets a CB on it or whatever.
Or maybe the limiting factor could be that if you force a PU on the other one and then inherit you do not get cores on their territory, no free base tax or centralization and no access to the other one’s national decisions. In other words the current situation.
It would be nice if they could have some sort of decision that give a core and maybe converts or increases the base tax and population of Judea, upon its conquest.

I'd like to see something like this:

Code:
country_decisions = {

	koj_nation = {
		potential = {
			NOT = { exists = KOJ }
			tag = CYP
		}
		allow = 
		{
			owns = 379		# Judea	
			war = no
		}
	  effect = {
			KOJ = {
				add_core = 379		# Judea	

			}
			missionaries = 1
			379 = {
				base_tax = 1
				change_manpower = 1
			}
			centralization_decentralization = -1
			prestige = 0.03
			change_tag = KOJ
			KOJ = {
				capital = 379
			}
		}
		ai_will_do = {
			factor = 1
		}
	}
	
}
The only thing it needs is localisation. If only Paradox allowed for more of the form-nation suggestions to be actually added in a patch.
 
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Have Romanian primary culture, don't be the Pope or the HRE-nation, and Byzantium has to have been destroyed. Own and core Bessarabia, Budjak, Silistria, Oltenia, Wallachia, and Transylvania. Be at peace.

You're unlikely to ever see it unless you set out to do it yourself, and you'd probably need to mod at least the Golden Horde back to being a Tribal something-or-other to pull it off.

Easy to do if you abuse the fact that AI Golden Horde tends to auto-vassalize you at 100% war score.

I still cannot understand the requirement for Byzantium being dead though.
 

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Because Byzantium was also called Romania, or at least the people were referred to as Romanian, as a derivative of "Rome" which, of course, they were the successor to, and remains of.

You can't form the third Roman state until the second is dead.
 

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Because Byzantium was also called Romania, or at least the people were referred to as Romanian, as a derivative of "Rome" which, of course, they were the successor to, and remains of.

You can't form the third Roman state until the second is dead.

Except Romania isn't claiming to be the successor to the Roman empire. Romania is called Romania because it's the land of the Romanians. If any unification decision is going to require the Byzzies to be dead, it should be Russia, as they actually claimed descent from the empire.
 

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Except Romania isn't claiming to be the successor to the Roman empire. Romania is called Romania because it's the land of the Romanians. If any unification decision is going to require the Byzzies to be dead, it should be Russia, as they actually claimed descent from the empire.

It may not make sense but it works with the description. Also names Romania and Romanians are derived from Rome.
"The last vestiges of the Roman Empire are gone, and although many would make claim to the imperial crown, we are its true descendants. With all the ancestral lands united under our wise rule, we can usher in a new era of prosperity. We are the children of Rome - the people of Romania!"
 

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huh i dont have that event does it just pop up when you unify romania
 

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Greece
Westphalia
Livonia
Yugoslavia (or some sort of Balkan Union)
Etruria
Egypt
Arabia
South Africa

greece exists ive seen it start in genoas crimea
 

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huh i dont have that event does it just pop up when you unify romania
It's a flavour text for the decision. It appears if you mouse-over it. It also pops up on the screen when you take the decision (at least I have the game set so it does that).
greece exists ive seen it start in genoas crimea
So does Westphalia and Etruria and Livonia if it means the Livonian Order. They however can not be formed from another nation.
 

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And another: Austria

Requirements:
- Own and have cores on Wien, Graz, Tirol, Linz
- Culture is Austrian (Salzburg, Tyrol, Styria)
- Austria doesn't exist
- Be Holy Roman Emperor
Effects:
Get cores on Austria, centralization, prestige...

This is what I've been using in my mod:

Code:
	austrian_nation = {
		potential = {
			NOT = { tag = HAB }
			NOT = { tag = GER }
			primary_culture = austrian
		}
		allow = {
			NOT = { exists = HAB }
			owns = 134	# Wien
			war = no
		}
		effect = {
			austria = { add_core = HAB }
			random_owned = { base_tax = 1 }
			centralization_decentralization = -1
			capital = 134	# Wien
			prestige = 0.25
			change_tag = HAB
			define_heir = {
				dynasty = "von Habsburg"
				DIP = 7
			}
		}
		ai_will_do = {
			factor = 1
		}
	}

I made it a lot easier to form than your version, because the AI needs all the help it can get :) In my last game, Salzburg just formed it after revolting from mega-Hungary. The instant cores is required for revolters, because otherwise they'll never get anywhere.
 

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This is what I've been using in my mod:
I made it a lot easier to form than your version, because the AI needs all the help it can get :) In my last game, Salzburg just formed it after revolting from mega-Hungary. The instant cores is required for revolters, because otherwise they'll never get anywhere.

You might consider adding NOT = { tag = HRE}.
 

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I don't know if anyone has mentioned it before but the the Holy Britannian Empire would be great, formable by the Britts, losing cores on Britain but getting cores on whole North America and moving their capital to North America as well. (Concept taken from the Lelouch of the Rebellion)
 

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You might consider adding NOT = { tag = HRE}.

I thought about that, but it's kind of nice to be able to get out of the HRE if you've formed it. So in my mod I don't have any restrictions on nation forming if you've already formed the HRE. Rarely does the AI actually get to form the HRE though, and I don't typically form it myself.
 

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I thought about that, but it's kind of nice to be able to get out of the HRE if you've formed it. So in my mod I don't have any restrictions on nation forming if you've already formed the HRE. Rarely does the AI actually get to form the HRE though, and I don't typically form it myself.

There's also the problem of PAP. Salzburg could become PAP, then HAB. Since the decision does not change government it could be stuck as HAB papacy.
 

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I feel that soem german countries should be added, like Hannover which gives cores on the hannoverian cultured provinces, Westphalia which gives cores on what was to become Westphalia and maybe some Rhineland type of country.
 

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Springing from LordKestrel's post, could I use the below code to make KOJ more interesting, where you put a relative on the throne or even form a personal union with Jerusalem?

Code:
		define_heir = {
				dynasty = THIS
 

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The country for the Rhineland exists as a playable country: The Palatinate. (Pfalzgrafschaft bei Rhein)