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Hi,

Currently MOT costs 20% more manpower + of course additional trucks.
For that you get vanila infantry with speed boost.

What do you think about minor buff to Breakthrough for MOT: like 0.3-04? I tested that and it worked ok with INF WEAPONS 1936-1939.
That would make motorized slightly more worthwhile as attack unit

Also most inf at the end of the war was motorized - that should count for something?
 
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minor buff to Breakthrough for MOT: like 0.3-04

I don't think being motorized justifies that change. They fight as dismounted infantry, so having trucks shouldn't effect combat ability. Just their speed.
 
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If you want better MOT, pay the IC and research cost for MECH.

Also most inf at the end of the war was motorized - that should count for something?

I'm pretty sure the Japanese army wasn't mostly motorized at the end of the war. I'm also sure the German army wasn't mostly motorized at the end of the war. And I don't think the Italian army was either.

I'm not sure if Britain or the Soviets had more than 50% of their army motorized either, but I'm less knowledgeable about those countries and their OOBs.
 

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My suggestion is that MOT should be support brigade, so it just adds speed to regular infantry.
They are just trucks in which soldiers are transported anyway, when they are fighting they are outside the truck and they do not have that speed.

Another thing is mechanized infantry...
 

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My suggestion is that MOT should be support brigade, so it just adds speed to regular infantry.

Interesting. But then there is a problem with the cost. How to accommodate there could be one (1) or nine (9) Inf Bn's? And adding another support unit takes away one of the support slots.

Why not just make sure motorized and infantry are identical otherwise?
 
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