Idea Group Elimination
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Taking Retetop's vote into account with this one.
I was originally going to boost Influence and downvote Quantity again, but...this has to stop.
Religious: 17(+1)
Economic: 6
Administrative: 12
Humanist: 0(-2)
Influence: 10
Offensive: 12
Quantity: 16
8. Defensive
9. Exploration
10. Diplomatic
11. Expansion
12. Quality
13. Plutocratic
14. Aristocratic
15. Innovative
16. Maritime
17. Naval
18. Trade
19. Espionage
It's over.
It's done.
I was originally going to boost Influence and downvote Quantity again, but...this has to stop.
Religious: 17(+1)
Economic: 6
Administrative: 12
Humanist: 0(-2)
Influence: 10
Offensive: 12
Quantity: 16
8. Defensive
9. Exploration
10. Diplomatic
11. Expansion
12. Quality
13. Plutocratic
14. Aristocratic
15. Innovative
16. Maritime
17. Naval
18. Trade
19. Espionage
It's over.
It's done.
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On a phone, and not so familiar with the forum functions, could probably just explore the features myself. Just ignore my post, I'll have it done.
Edit: Nightwing fixed it.
Edit: Nightwing fixed it.
I have a feeling all of the humanist fans are going to swarm religous and avenge humanist now
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You bet I am.
Religious: 15
Economic: 6
Administrative: 12
Influence: 10
Offensive: 13
Quantity: 16
Edit: removed Humanist, accidentally left it in there.
Religious: 15
Economic: 6
Administrative: 12
Influence: 10
Offensive: 13
Quantity: 16
Edit: removed Humanist, accidentally left it in there.
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Religious
Economic
Administrative
Influence
Offensive
Quantity
7 Humanism
8 Defensive
We're near the end of the game!
OP, how about another game after this one ends, but to choose the worst IG? Voting the opposite: +1 vote (it's bad) -2(it's good)?
Religious
Economic
Administrative
Influence
Offensive
Quantity
7 Humanism
8 Defensive
We're near the end of the game!
OP, how about another game after this one ends, but to choose the worst IG? Voting the opposite: +1 vote (it's bad) -2(it's good)?
Good to have humanist go. Being intolerant and convert the place is the way to go. And as mentioned earlier you don't have to be particularly big before that accepted culture idea doesn't help anyway.
Religious: 16
Economic: 6
Administrative: 12
Influence: 10
Offensive: 11
Quantity: 16
Offensive still overrated. Can't go wrong with religious.
Economic: 6
Administrative: 12
Influence: 10
Offensive: 11
Quantity: 16
Offensive still overrated. Can't go wrong with religious.
RIP Humanist, voted out at 315 with 56 upvotes and 38 downvotes. To answer an earlier question, Defensive was the first idea group to have more up than down votes, but I think it's going to be true of every group from here to the end.
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Religious: 16
Economic: 6
Administrative: 12
Influence: 10
Offensive: 9
Quantity: 17
I tend to start with small countries, so I always pick quantity sooner or later.
I never pick offensive - seems weak for me. I rate higher quality or aristocratic.
Economic: 6
Administrative: 12
Influence: 10
Offensive: 9
Quantity: 17
I tend to start with small countries, so I always pick quantity sooner or later.
I never pick offensive - seems weak for me. I rate higher quality or aristocratic.
Religious: 16
Economic: 7
Administrative: 12
Influence: 8
Offensive: 9
Quantity: 17
Economic: 7
Administrative: 12
Influence: 8
Offensive: 9
Quantity: 17
Religious: 16
Economic: 5
Administrative: 13
Influence: 8
Offensive: 9
Quantity: 17
-Economic as it had the potential to be great in the new patch but actually got more weaker to the point of being a bad pick. The price changes and limited building slots made interest reduction stacking pointless while the obscenely high development costs made developing the move you make when you've already messed up.
+ Amin as its actually even stronger now than its ever been. Admin points are incredibly precious due to the fact you pay even more when the AI develops high value trade good provinces with military upgrades that give you 0 men due to overseas, wrong culture, trade company. Also mercs are much more useful since manpower can tank from a few bad losses well into the mid game.
Economic: 5
Administrative: 13
Influence: 8
Offensive: 9
Quantity: 17
-Economic as it had the potential to be great in the new patch but actually got more weaker to the point of being a bad pick. The price changes and limited building slots made interest reduction stacking pointless while the obscenely high development costs made developing the move you make when you've already messed up.
+ Amin as its actually even stronger now than its ever been. Admin points are incredibly precious due to the fact you pay even more when the AI develops high value trade good provinces with military upgrades that give you 0 men due to overseas, wrong culture, trade company. Also mercs are much more useful since manpower can tank from a few bad losses well into the mid game.
No, no 1000x no. A small country gets the least use out of quantity. A rapidly expanding country is one that benefits most and preferably a country that already starts with decent manpower, something like a QQ, Golden horde, Bahminis. OPMs don't really benefit as the modifiers are % based.
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Religious: 17
Economic: 3
Administrative: 13
Influence: 8
Offensive: 9
Quantity: 17
-Economic because I've seen myself use it less and less as time goes by... Its ideas are excellent, but compared to the ones still around, it pales in comparison.
+Religious because, conversely, I've seen myself use it more and more, and I feel that just for that sweet stability cost modifier it's worth it, and the rest of the ideas make it even better.
Economic: 3
Administrative: 13
Influence: 8
Offensive: 9
Quantity: 17
-Economic because I've seen myself use it less and less as time goes by... Its ideas are excellent, but compared to the ones still around, it pales in comparison.
+Religious because, conversely, I've seen myself use it more and more, and I feel that just for that sweet stability cost modifier it's worth it, and the rest of the ideas make it even better.
Religious: 15
Economic: 4
Administrative: 13
Influence: 8
Offensive: 9
Quantity: 17
In defense of humanism and also because economic gets the snowball rolling faster.
Economic: 4
Administrative: 13
Influence: 8
Offensive: 9
Quantity: 17
In defense of humanism and also because economic gets the snowball rolling faster.
I haven't followed this post-by-post, just decided to check in and see how the closing stages are going. Kinda surprised Humanist stayed on its feets as long as it did...especially that it outlasted Diplomatic. And now I'm looking at Religious with the 2nd-highest point total, while Economic is on the ropes.
I guess I need to take a harder look at Humanist and Religious and reassess my own usual choices. Diplo/Econ are two of my "no-brainer" picks, while I've never taken either Religious or Humanist. Maybe I haven't been as optimal as I might have been. For that matter, I've never taken Admin either....
I guess I need to take a harder look at Humanist and Religious and reassess my own usual choices. Diplo/Econ are two of my "no-brainer" picks, while I've never taken either Religious or Humanist. Maybe I haven't been as optimal as I might have been. For that matter, I've never taken Admin either....
I wasn't going to do another one on the same topic at risk of being repetitive. I was planning on best religion, but im open to suggestions
ill start another thread on suggestions for the next one once this one is done.
Religious: 15
Economic: 4
Administrative: 14
Influence: 8
Offensive: 9
Quantity: 15
New day, new vote!
+Administrative, because I'm running out of people to vote up for, and Administrative, I feel, is very useful for merc-spamming, and does Quantity's job better at making sure you have steady manpower and warfighting capacity.
-Quantity, because it hardly helps nations that don't have a (very) strong economic base since it's way too expensive to pay for the extra troops you gain with this without adequate income. Out of the ones still kicking, it sucks.
Economic: 4
Administrative: 14
Influence: 8
Offensive: 9
Quantity: 15
New day, new vote!
+Administrative, because I'm running out of people to vote up for, and Administrative, I feel, is very useful for merc-spamming, and does Quantity's job better at making sure you have steady manpower and warfighting capacity.
-Quantity, because it hardly helps nations that don't have a (very) strong economic base since it's way too expensive to pay for the extra troops you gain with this without adequate income. Out of the ones still kicking, it sucks.
about 67 points remaining in the total tally of points for each idea... At most, another 50 votes or so before we have a winner!
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