Iberia: after Rome,before Islam

[Arilou]

In modern Portuguese, yes. The language spoken back then was quite different. Whatever Romano-Hispanic, Visigoth or Moorish dialects villagers spoke, it would have come out as Mehmed or Mahmut or something like that. Ergo, Mamede. And given saintly status by confused peasants as they switched back and forth between Muslim & Christian rulers.

Where do you suggest the name "Mamede" comes from? What is its equivalent in English? And who is this Sao Mamede anyways? Why isn't he on the Church rosters?



It is a coincidence. But it is a really funny coincidence.

The number of local saints is truly staggering. Sweden had at least a few hundred native "saints" worshipped across the country, only one (St. Birgitta) was ever officially canonized.

 

[Earl Uhtred]

Wales and Ireland are the worst. The episode of Father Ted when the go to visit St Kevin's Stump is more truth than fiction.

 

[elvain]

Hello people!
I have a question for you: What were the political divisions of Iberia after the fall of Rome and before the islamic invasions?

I only know that the area was ruled firstly by Visigoths and then the Vikings (Sweves?) invaded and occupied the north-west.

I know that my answer is not about this topic, but area called Iberia is not in Spain but it is what is now known as Georgia...

it was under Roman and Armenian influence, but it was never ruled by Romans nor muslims

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

I know that my answer is not about this topic, but area called Iberia is not in Spain but it is what is now known as Georgia...

it was under Roman and Armenian influence, but it was never ruled by Romans nor muslims

Spain + Portugal is also called Iberia or the Iberian Peninsular.

So Iberia is not an area in Spain, but rather Spain is an area in Iberia.

 

[Rey]

I know that my answer is not about this topic, but area called Iberia is not in Spain but it is what is now known as Georgia...

it was under Roman and Armenian influence, but it was never ruled by Romans nor muslims

:rofl:

North of Portugal there is a spanish region called Galicia (yeh like in Poland)

 

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I know that my answer is not about this topic, but area called Iberia is not in Spain but it is what is now known as Georgia...

it was under Roman and Armenian influence, but it was never ruled by Romans nor muslims

Wow, learn something new every day. I never knew there was Roman nor Armenian influence in the southeastern US!

-Pat

 

[Woreczko]

:rofl:

North of Portugal there is a spanish region called Galicia (yeh like in Poland)

There is also Galacia in Turkey

 

[Abdul Goatherd]

There is also Galacia in Turkey

And there's also a Turkey in South America (In Portuguese, turkey, the bird, is called "peru").

 

[Yakman]

things, stuff

You left out the cool story about Julian offering to give Roderick hawks from Africa...

okay.. since you won't tell it, I will.

When Julian heard about Roderick raping his daughter, he went up to Toledo to collect her. Roderick was considering marrying the girl, and he and Julian went hunting. Julian hunted with North African hawks, which impressed Roderick mightily. Roderick, thinking his future father-in-law will be grateful for having his daughter marry a King, says to Julian, "Could you send me some of those African Hawks?"

Julian responds, "Roderick, I will send you hawks like you wouldn't believe."

Which is kind of like "OH SNAP!"

 

[Umarth]

I know that my answer is not about this topic, but area called Iberia is not in Spain but it is what is now known as Georgia...

it was under Roman and Armenian influence, but it was never ruled by Romans nor muslims

No. Really, Spain is Iberia like the Caucasus region. Spain and Portugal are in the Iberic peninsula, don't you know that?, because the south and east of the Peninsula was inhabit by the iberian people. But I don't know cause this two regions were call Iberia

 

[Yakman]

Just like Azerbaijan used to be Albania and there's two other Albanias in Europe--the British Isles and the one next to Greece.

 

[w_mullender]

You sure you dont mean Albion?

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

You sure you dont mean Albion?

No, the latin name for an ancient kingdom in Scotland, Alba or Albany is Albania

 

[elvain]

No. Really, Spain is Iberia like the Caucasus region. Spain and Portugal are in the Iberic peninsula, don't you know that?, because the south and east of the Peninsula was inhabit by the iberian people. But I don't know cause this two regions were call Iberia

sorry, forgot to write "not ONLY Spain" instead of "not Spain"

silly me :wacko:

 

[w_mullender]

No, the latin name for an ancient kingdom in Scotland, Alba or Albany is Albania

I only knew Alba and Albion for the whole isles.

 

[Abdul Goatherd]

I only knew Alba and Albion for the whole isles.

Alba was the name used by the early Irish to Britain as a whole, and only later became limited to Scotland when Irish invaders (the Scotti) established a kingdom there. Scotland is still called Alba in Gaelic.

There is some confusion as to the exact linguistic origin of the term, as it is Alba in both Latin & Gaelic and, in both languages, it is related to "white". It is likely the Irish adopted it from Roman usage, but could also be coincidental or have older roots.

Albania is certainly a (re-)Latinized variation of the Gaelic name for Scotland and you will see it aplenty in old manuscripts.

 

[Abdul Goatherd]

You left out the cool story about Julian offering to give Roderick hawks from Africa...

okay.. since you won't tell it, I will.

When Julian heard about Roderick raping his daughter, he went up to Toledo to collect her. Roderick was considering marrying the girl, and he and Julian went hunting. Julian hunted with North African hawks, which impressed Roderick mightily. Roderick, thinking his future father-in-law will be grateful for having his daughter marry a King, says to Julian, "Could you send me some of those African Hawks?"

Julian responds, "Roderick, I will send you hawks like you wouldn't believe."

Which is kind of like "OH SNAP!"

That is a great story! No, I didn't know that.