I would delete this if I knew how

[Zorgax]

Who wants to save players hours of time restarting, it's part of the fun of the game! Not spending hours restarting would be cheating and no one likes cheaters! Game systems that promote this behaviour are fun and should not be changed. Also how about we all make no reasonable response to the main post nor have a reasonable conversation and just tell op how stupid his ideas are. Oh he made a response, might as well disregard it. Note I'm not mad at Paradox I'm just done with how the suggestion forum reacts to suggestions.

For anyone interested the original suggestion was that the player be able to choose the start scenario they prefer as regards rivals instead of having to restart to get it. I would elaborate but it wouldn't be worth my time. If you want to hear send me a message or something.

 

[gdj]

In short, it is just a way of cheating. Setting the attitudes before loading is like deciding who gets which cards at the beginning of a poker game.

And yes, guides that start with "restart until x rivalled y.." are cheesy, to say at least.

That said, the game might use more "historical rivals/friends" at game start, and make these more flexible (being friendly with a historial rival for hundreds of years should make this rivalry disappear and vice versa).

 

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

Worst suggestion I have ever seen.

What's next, letting players control enemy AI troops? +10000% Morale and discipline for the player? This would ruin the game for me. And if this somehow gets implemented, it should be disabled for ironman.

 

[gdj]

Restarting the game until a certain set of attitudes exist is at the very least bad practice and, as i said, cheating, why should Pdx encourage this?

If some players do something cheesy like this, they really should sit hours restarting the game.

As to the randomness: the only alternative to random assignment would be to set the attitudes of all tags to each other in a historically meaningful way, as the setups are supposed to be as historical as possible. In some cases this is pretty obvious, knowing that Byzantium and the Ottomans are not really friendly to each other is not exactly rocket science. But researching everyones attitude against everyone else would take months or even years.

Finally, i´m pretty sure that ThePatriotOfDreumel did not mean to offend you in any way. I can, however, understand his reaction..

 

[Zelius]

You don't need to restart until X rivals Y and not you for a good game... and I can see how this is easily abusable; "oh hey everyone please rival France and not me". Part of the game upon starting in 1444 is figuring out the balance of power and finding opportunities.

Wiki strategy guides call for restarting, yes. But that's because they go in the vein of "... restart until X rivals Y / improve relations with X / ally and call X into the war". So for one it wouldn't make sense if Y was rivalled by another nation. Secondly they demand you randomly roll the best 1444 scenario to make the strategy the 'best' one. But you can play the game without restarting, and just rely on your own skill to adapt to the conditions.

 

[gdj]

I would elaborate but it wouldn't be worth my time.

But it was worth your time to completely rewrite your original post, erase all your other posts, and click disagree to everything else. How mature.

 

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

I would post a Cartman crying picture, but it isn't worth my time.

 

[magnusvejby]

No need for deleting

And I think you just were unlucky with this suggestion, form my experience, this forum is one of the best, problay the best. Both with kindness and also feedback

I once made a very bad suggestion, and the forum said no its terribel, but they were so nice to say, just because this idea is bad, it does not mean that you not can make any good ideas.

And thats the same thing i will say to you.

You can problay come with some great suggestions in the future, don't be done with this fourm.

And really this suggestion is not that bad, I have seen far worse.