I wish Paradox games took themselves more seriously

[RaccoonCity]

I know CK2 had a lot of meme stuff, but personally I would prefer if CK3 aimed more for a realistic medieval immersion and not too much comical content like the fart events and that kind of stuff.

I hope that Vic3 will have a much more serious tone.

 

[Axis89]

I know CK2 had a lot of meme stuff, but personally I would prefer if CK3 aimed more for a realistic medieval immersion and not too much comical content like the fart events and that kind of stuff.

I hope that Vic3 will have a much more serious tone.

I agree, there is no serious attempts to do real medieval immersion.
Maybe all thr jokes and memes is because they are afraid to fail, so they hide behind jokes.

xD but come on CK3 has potential, just grow some hair, and take some inspiration from for example Ridley Scott. He knows how to set a tune.

 

[lord_toinou]

I'm starting to believe that the game was made for comic youtubers and nothing else.

 

[AvengedK1ng]

I'm starting to believe that the game was made for comic youtubers and nothing else.

Reddit upvotes mass marketing *

 

[RynGM]

I do think there's a place for levity, but it's admittedly somewhat less special and immersion-breaking if it happens all the time.

 

[Darsara]

I, admittedly, have not yet really played with Royal Court, but fart jokes are pretty medieval; Henry the Second of England did employed a jester listed in the Book of Fees as Roland the Farter.

 

[RynGM]

In terms of us as rulers being disgusted by the fart jokes in our court, I can see Queen Calanthe just staring like this.

"Idiots, the lot of them."

 

[lord_toinou]

In terms of us as rulers being disgusted by the fart jokes in our court, I can see Queen Calanthe just staring like this.

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"Idiots, the lot of them."

Best character and actress of the show. Well written and well played. Perfect example of a matriarch.

 

[cristofolmc]

Im starting to believe that the only requirement to work on ck3 in the interview besides the technical knowledge is "Do you love Game of Thrones and how much do you know about it?". The game is an absolute parody of the middle ages produced by people who clearly dont know anything about the middle ages and are stuck on the middle ages vision of beginning of the XX century and who care not at all about the middle ages, and only to do a good representation of game of thrones and Flying Circus representation of the middle ages. No, the middle ages wasnt like GoT. The middle ages wasnt a endles circle of assassination and incest. There was more to it.

It's really a pity. The game has great foundation mechanics, but they've decided to turn it into an unimmersive joke. Some people might find it fresh and interesting now, but they are gonna get bored of ig two expansion from now on. Well some are already getting fed up with it already.

 

[ruzen]

I know CK2 had a lot of meme stuff, but personally I would prefer if CK3 aimed more for a realistic medieval immersion and not too much comical content like the fart events and that kind of stuff.

I hope that Vic3 will have a much more serious tone.

I agree with this 100%
Years ago it was a big deal when you manage to WC with the smallest nation using ingenious exploits.
But in later years Paradox has changed and aim to allow more meme-nations as in-game content so that every customer can WC.

Stellaris isnt in that cathegory. And i most certly hope vikcy3 stay out of this too

 

[Axis89]

Im starting to believe that the only requirement to work on ck3 in the interview besides the technical knowledge is "Do you love Game of Thrones and how much do you know about it?". The game is an absolute parody of the middle ages produced by people who clearly dont know anything about the middle ages and are stuck on the middle ages vision of beginning of the XX century and who care not at all about the middle ages, and only to do a good representation of game of thrones and Flying Circus representation of the middle ages. No, the middle ages wasnt like GoT. The middle ages wasnt a endles circle of assassination and incest. There was more to it.

It's really a pity. The game has great foundation mechanics, but they've decided to turn it into an unimmersive joke. Some people might find it fresh and interesting now, but they are gonna get bored of ig two expansion from now on. Well some are already getting fed up with it already.

Yes, yes and yes. Also some here are fiercely protective of the game and devs to the point that it is detrimental to the feedback which get labeled as hate.

 

[Voy]

I think CK3 is infinitely better than CK2 in that regard. But t yes I believe they need to tone down the incest and try not to rely on pop culture too much. The Tinder event is so cringe.

 

[Anna_Gein]

Yeah. CK3 often, feels like a caricature of the regular CK2 experience.

 

[bocbocboc]

I hope this dlc will fail, and devs will concentrate on making a serious strategic-rpg finally and start rewrite and redesign the whole game. Or i hope at least someone will make a game like that.

 

[Algarde]

They are very serious, about money.

 

[Derp Throat]

Im starting to believe that the only requirement to work on ck3 in the interview besides the technical knowledge is "Do you love Game of Thrones and how much do you know about it?". The game is an absolute parody of the middle ages produced by people who clearly dont know anything about the middle ages and are stuck on the middle ages vision of beginning of the XX century and who care not at all about the middle ages, and only to do a good representation of game of thrones and Flying Circus representation of the middle ages. No, the middle ages wasnt like GoT. The middle ages wasnt a endles circle of assassination and incest. There was more to it.

It's really a pity. The game has great foundation mechanics, but they've decided to turn it into an unimmersive joke. Some people might find it fresh and interesting now, but they are gonna get bored of ig two expansion from now on. Well some are already getting fed up with it already.

Reading Horrible Histories is also desirable.

 

[Blobhemian]

Yeah. CK3 often, feels like a caricature of the regular CK2 experience.

CK2 also suffered from overabundance of silly stuff. I feel that the devs maybe thought that because silly stuff gets all the upvotes on the CK subreddit, there is demand for that kind of content in large scale. But silly stuff is no longer funny if it happens routinely, it simply ends up boring and immersion breaking.

 

[Trunting]

*farts very loud*

Entire CK3 forum: Why did you do this?

 

[Kyberia]

Also the constant farting in the ambient background sound. It goes from "Ah yes, the Middle Ages, when people were earthy" to "This is gross" very fast when someone is constantly farting in your ear.

 

[Ezumiyr]

I'm going to disagree with the initial statement, for two reasons.

The first one is that the idea that the Middle ages were grim and serious is inaccurate. People in they day-to-day lives had fun with simple and more elaborate things. Yes, they made fart jokes. This is actually immersive, and we have loads of texts to prove that. So yes, some memes are annoying (like this weird obsession with incest and weird-looking characters) but overall, I'm also tired of medieval simulators trying to make us think that life was like a perpetual Game of Thrones scenario with death at the corner all the time.

The second one is that a historical game that takes itself too seriously is always really bad news for teachers and researchers, because it means more students who think that playing a game is learning about history. I know it's a rather egotistic reason, but nowadays we already have enough online content trying to rewrite history that it's an issue. A student with an appetite for learning because they had fun in CK, while realizing it wasn't the most accurate depiction of history, is preferable to idiots who think Total War Rome is a historical simulator.

And I would add a third one:
In CK2 we had lots of silly supernatural events that were leaning more towards fantasy than actual medieval supernatural stuff. In CK3 we get some jokes, but a lot of them aren't out of place for a medieval game. Like, the obvious reference to king Salomon in the court event would be understood by a lot of medieval people. Also, I'm not sure which fart joke you're referring to, but one of the most famous medieval farce tells the story of a man who substitutes his soul for a fart when the Devil comes to take it.

Comments like the one written here by cristofolmc reminds me of those people who actually don't know the first thing about the daily life in the middle ages, but are persuaded to be very knowledgeable because they know of some very serious stuff like battles and laws. CK3 may not be an accurate version of the Middle Ages, but it doesn't really try to, and often it gets the spirit, much more so than CK2 ever did.
In fact, the issue we have is that this community takes itself way too seriously for a bunch of nerds playing games. If you want history, then do history, don't play games.