I want Racial purity? Does that make me evil?

[telge2]

But why on Earth would you want to be open and liberal, when you could level their cities, massacre their soldiers, rape the members of their populace who are suitable for it, and then purge the xeno scum altogether? I say clean their planets with fire, and send their dark souls to their miserable gods if they have any.

 

[Matoro_TBS]

Once I colonized 20 tile Gaia world and one month after its founding something like 15 alien pops from my federation partners immigrated there. Honestly, that kind of mass immigration was pretty annoying, as is brings a lot of suboptimal pops - I had meant to make it a science planet, with my own Fairies having Intelligent and Natural Physicists, but instead there were dozen worms and birds without any science traits. It felt a bit unfair.

 

[Sheriff Godwin Law]

I had a different problem with migration treaties. I was Alpine preference and terraformed many planets for it. I signed migration with continental and desert species because I wanted them to populate them. Instead, they moved to my alpine planets and they are really unhappy... It's the main reason why I rarely play pro-Xenos. Not my fault if they can't choose the right planet for them

Build a colony ship on the alpine world with the miserable desert loving bird man, now that he's there the colony ship can be filled with miserable desert loving bird men. Land them on the desert and they'll become happy desert loving bird men. Build a planetary administration ASAP and your miserable desert loving bird man from the Alpine will probably immigrate there on his own.

 

[ISitOnGnomes]

Build a colony ship on the alpine world with the miserable desert loving bird man, now that he's there the colony ship can be filled with miserable desert loving bird men. Land them on the desert and they'll become happy desert loving bird men. Build a planetary administration ASAP and your miserable desert loving bird man from the Alpine will probably immigrate there on his own.

Nah, i have this same problem in my current empire. I have multiples of every planet type, but because I've gotten my base habitability above some magic number every species thinks they can live on any planet. Then they get there and realize it's all a bunch of shit and decide to go... form a faction. Because that will teach the government for letting you live wherever you want.

 

[Winterwolf00]

No idea,

As humorous as it is to say, I think the immigrants are actually out breeding the humans, becuase I chose slow breeders as a trait

Well that's your problem right there.

 

[JMensch]

Nah, i have this same problem in my current empire. I have multiples of every planet type, but because I've gotten my base habitability above some magic number every species thinks they can live on any planet. Then they get there and realize it's all a bunch of shit and decide to go... form a faction. Because that will teach the government for letting you live wherever you want.

I get you bro. My insect people aren't evil because we don't allow unrestricted migration, heck we don't even allow primary species migration. All the problems migration causes make it not worth it. It's much easier to keep everyone on their worlds and build colony ships as needed from whichever species you think is suitable for whatever planet.

 

[Everstill]

If only you were playing Utopia, you'd be able to elect a reactionary maniac (or some random guy you've decided to roleplay as a reactionary maniac) and start instituting policies that make non-humans into second-class citizens unfit for your core worlds.

OH YES!

OP, can you provide me with your Save File?? Or anyone save file of a xenophile multispecies Empire.

Why? Imagine the fun you electing a President that have Xenphobe values from a Xenophobic Faction and start to Preach the Xenophone Faction values and change your Empire Ethics to Fanatic Xenophone AND Militarist. After this, you get the Fanatic Purifier Civic AND BOOM. You created space nazi germany and start your Quest to purge the aliens in the Galaxy (starting with the aliens in your Empire).

 

[The_Meme_Man]

It is evil. You know why?

You left a heresy unpurged from the start.

 

[mudcrabmerchant]

Capital/species home worlds should have a special attraction once your empire gets big. A bonus to migration attraction for pops originally from there and a penalty to attraction for aliens would make sense.

 

[Ratanka]

i would love to have a policy that is like "semiopen migration" making it only possible for 40% non primal species per planet or "Primal Purity" like having the Main Planet only Primal race or lets say min 80% primal race

 

[Emraldis]

Yeah, but base humans are fast learners, and that's actually better in the early game than longevity. Not that I'd let either of your jokers take a leadership position in my society.

I look forward to using all of my mechanical tools while you, with your unaided power, scowl from the surface of your worlds waving your unaided claws and teeth up at the ships bombarding you back into the stone age that appreciates the very strong and naturally long lived.

Sounds like someone needs to set up a multiplayer game

 

[Your3rdShadow]

Sounds like someone needs to set up a multiplayer game

I would be more than happy to take on the Iron Cabbage Dominion with my Psi-Jump Drives, Shields, and hopefully some kind of Psi weaponry(We'll see I guess) once Banks drops. Others are welcome to join.

 

[anomanderus]

In my first game, as the UNE, I allowed everyone to migrate to my planets. Everything looked fine until I noticed that as soon as I colonized a new world billions of aliens would come and starve because, obviously, I was still building the first farm. And some of the aliens were complaining that their neighbours were repugnant or they were xenophobes and so on.

Next time I play as xenophiles I'll try to keep troublemakers away. 1.5 seems to offer many options that will be helpful, like choosing different options for each species. However, my citizens will probably complain that I'm not allowing the troublemakers in...

Amusingly I pretty much always play to avoid having aliens in my empire, but recently I was working hard to max out my farms and get rapid population growth and colonization and the result was whenever I colonized a new world people from my overpopulated old worlds would come and complain about the lack of food on the new undeveloped world.

But why on Earth would you want to be open and liberal, when you could level their cities, massacre their soldiers, rape the members of their populace who are suitable for it, and then purge the xeno scum altogether? I say clean their planets with fire, and send their dark souls to their miserable gods if they have any.

Can't you do the same as a xenophile though? Except in this case you love everyone so much you need to burn their fleets to the ground to ensure everyone is one big happy galaxy under your benevolent rule. It's like tough love.

 

[GC13]

Once I colonized 20 tile Gaia world and one month after its founding something like 15 alien pops from my federation partners immigrated there. Honestly, that kind of mass immigration was pretty annoying, as is brings a lot of suboptimal pops - I had meant to make it a science planet, with my own Fairies having Intelligent and Natural Physicists, but instead there were dozen worms and birds without any science traits. It felt a bit unfair.

Yeah, migration is completely ridiculous right now. Any time I colonize a new world, I have a ridiculous build queue because I know that by the time my second building is done I'll have ten Pops on the planet. Un- and under-employment for years...

I don't know why they do it either. They're migrating from one built-up world to another of the same type (usually before the visitor center is even put in).

 

[Hidden Gunman]

I was playing as the united earth, trying to make a startrek like federation, and I was expanding and met four or five different civilizations, that agreed to federate with me, I signed migration treaties, was having a blast, but then later into the game I looked at my ethnic demographics and humans where a minority, in the UNITED EARTH civilization.

Well no big deal, humans represent such a tiny portion of the Galaxy anyway, so I brushed that off and kept playing.

But then I clicked on Earth and Humans where a minority on earth too...

That kinda struck a cord with me. I mean I want to be open and liberal, and inviting and allow other races to settle in my lands and work together in harmony....But by the same token, earth for the earthlings lol.

The interesting part of this, and perhaps what makes it a good game, is the ability to compare it to modern immigration crisis the world is experiencing.

What do you guys think? A minority of humans on earth, is that a problem ? Or am I just being a bigot?

Other species aren't human, so the only question is whether you apply human ethics and morality to how you deal with them. If you decide 'no', then cleanse away.

 

[Emraldis]

I would be more than happy to take on the Iron Cabbage Dominion with my Psi-Jump Drives, Shields, and hopefully some kind of Psi weaponry(We'll see I guess) once Banks drops. Others are welcome to join.

The Axian Wardens or Xyth Collective may just take you up on that. Will have to see on timing though. Defending the galaxy from evil takes proper time-management, as does eating all of it.

 

[Cagliostro]

Capital/species home worlds should have a special attraction once your empire gets big. A bonus to migration attraction for pops originally from there and a penalty to attraction for aliens would make sense.

Can't see any great reason for a penalty to attraction, though the bonus makes perfect sense.

 

[Seb_Jean]

Build a colony ship on the alpine world with the miserable desert loving bird man, now that he's there the colony ship can be filled with miserable desert loving bird men. Land them on the desert and they'll become happy desert loving bird men. Build a planetary administration ASAP and your miserable desert loving bird man from the Alpine will probably immigrate there on his own.

Thanks for the tip, I'll do that next time

 

[balmung60]

What did you do to make all the humans want to leave?

Probably signed a migration treaty with a xenophile or fanatic xenophile empire that's spamming migration attraction edicts. I have 100% happiness POPs leaving my empire to go places they'll be less happy because of this.

At this point, I'm hoping to subvert their pacifist, authoritarian, spiritualist society with my egalitarian, militarist, and materialist POPs overwhelming their current ethics. Well, that, or splitting off their own empire that I might then vassalize.

 

[nweismuller]

While I'm not in any hurry to enforce racial purity, the absolutely ridiculous level of xenophile attraction I've been getting in Banks, while not actually being a xenophile empire, is making me modestly irritated. I mean, I'm officially Egalitarian/Materialist/Pacifist, I have been at peace for a long, long, long time, I have One Vision as an ascension perk, and xenophilia attraction is easily overwhelming my pacifist attraction.

Hey guys, let's focus on making ludicrous amounts of money and how awesome our living standards are, rather than clamoring for more alien species in our republic and asking me to have diplomatic ties with all my neighbors, like the psychotic slavers directly on our borders. Ugh. I mean, it's not like I have bad policies for aliens, I literally set them all to the same rights as my own Daera, I just would prefer their focus be less 'aliens are awesome!' and more 'peace and prosperity'.