I want my enemy's Outpost

[WLFobe]

So I'm going to attack my neighbor. And I'm taking (liberating) some of his worlds. Just on the other side of those worlds is a Frontier Outpost. It is closer to the worlds I liberating than the worlds I am not. Will the new liberated empire get the F.O., or should I destroy it?

 

[Rubido]

Destroy.

 

[stumason]

I find it is good practice to ALWAYS destroy the AI's Frontier Outposts in a War, regardless of what your war aims are, because they do like to use them to grab huge swathes of territory. Destroying them shrinks the size of their Empire quite considerably, even if you take no planets at all. I've often gone to War just to destroy outposts alone.

As for "who gets them" if you don't destroy them, as far as I know they stay with the original Empire.

 

[henzington]

They stay until their last planet is conquered. It isn't possible to capture star ports or frontier outposts but you do gain mining and research stations.

 

[The Founder]

So I'm going to attack my neighbor. And I'm taking (liberating) some of his worlds. Just on the other side of those worlds is a Frontier Outpost. It is closer to the worlds I liberating than the worlds I am not. Will the new liberated empire get the F.O., or should I destroy it?

As long as the empire still exists after the war, it retains all frontier outposts. It no longer exists if you Cede, Cleanse or Liberate all the worlds.

Liberation spawns a new, totally seperate empire. They even forget all purges done beforehand.

As stumanson says, it is still good practice to kill them anyway. At the very least, they loose a bunch of mining stations. Ideally they might even "flip over" to you as the border moves.
The destroyed stations can be salvaged for many techs (top tier weapon, powersource and shield).

 

[OBRkenobi]

They stay until their last planet is conquered. It isn't possible to capture star ports or frontier outposts but you do gain mining and research stations.

You do actually get to keep any space ports in newly conquered territory if you win.

 

[Wyrm]

I'd like to be able to demand an empire to dismantle an outpost if it is close to your territory.

"Either you remove that Outpost or our fleet will!"

 

[The Founder]

I'd like to be able to demand an empire to dismantle an outpost if it is close to your territory.

"Either you remove that Outpost or our fleet will!"

I seem to remember having read something about a "Cede Frontier Outpost" Wargoal having the price adjusted in a patch. But it is neither in 1.4 or 1.4.1 Patchnotes. Plus there is the whole issue that during warfare, this goal might be destoryed. Maybe Frontier Outposts would have to be turned into something closer to a colony (in that it needs ground assault and can not be destoryed) to make any ceeding goal possible?

 

[PirateJack]

Wiz mentioned boarding actions becoming a thing this patch or the next so we could have outposts flip ownership based on that.

 

[--Yigito123--]

Maybe you could demand the enemy dismantle the outpost and then if they decline, automatically declare war with the wargoal of destroying it? Kind of like Demand Province in EU4. I think that'd be nice.

 

[Wyrm]

Maybe you could demand the enemy dismantle the outpost and then if they decline, automatically declare war with the wargoal of destroying it? Kind of like Demand Province in EU4. I think that'd be nice.

It would be nice to be able to have more limited wars. As it is now, it almost always end with a total war where one side decimates the other almost beyond recover.

 

[rcasale]

As a bonus, you can also invade any primitives in the enemy territory. You gain control of the planet immediately and retain control of it regardless of the out come of the war.

 

[Malecord]

Fronteer outpost are also decent war score objectives that can usually be taken for free.