I guess than you can't annex Burgundy becuse the game don't anticipate than you (with nation than not was the Austria) can annex the BurgundyASAD said:
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What I can't annex Burgundy.For ever?
I must be some way make such conditions that it be possible.
Or not?
I must be some way make such conditions that it be possible.
Or not?
Hum, sorry. I think we've all forgotten to solve your problem.ASAD said:What I can't annex Burgundy.For ever?
I must be some way make such conditions that it be possible.
Or not?
o Like you can see in my sig, DA is keyed to 8 conditions :
- vassal and suzerain part of the same alliance
- vassalization has endured for ten years at least
- hum, sorry, your problem is that they refuse.
Well, helping factors (also presented in my FAQ
) include :- monarch's relative DIP-skills : you could wait until they get a worse monarch, or until you get a better one. Your Edward IV is a good monarch with a base of 7, but Philip the Good has a base of 8, so you're outclassed. Wait until 1467, they'll get Charles the Bold (or the Rash if you prefer
), he's only got a 2. - length of vassalization : chances increase the longer the vassalization has endured, up to 30 years. Waiting 5 more years will help you too
- better army : that means bigger army, and a better morale. Build your army up to maximum supportable limit, then push maintenance to 100% when you decide to try your luck - it greatly helps
- bigger economy : meaning higher income. Burgundy has some very rich provinces, and at least one CoT. Try to finish France, to get a second CoT (Ile-de-France), Mecklemburg may also help. Otherwise, that early in the game, you can't rely on colonization, nor on trade, so you'll really need to maximize your other chances. You might want to take more french provinces even if you can't finish them at once.
- getting the relations as high as possible : the closer to +200 that you can. Send them a gift a month before the attempt, to bring it to +200, and push maintenance at the same time (to avoid forgetting). It helps a little bit.
Don't wait too long tough, as in the period of 1476-1484, as soon as Burgundy is at peace and both Austria & France exist, you get 18/19 chances of losing them to some inheritance. There're three ways to avoid that doom event :
- ensuring Burgundy stays at war for the whole period : rather hard, as you need to be ready to DoW as soon as they get out of a war. Additionnally, this might ruin their economy, and cause rebels to spread out, or make them lose their wars (and provinces)
- making sure France is inexistent : that's possible, provided you started early enough, e.g. by taking some provinces in the first war (in 1419, since it's a defensive war
), and later taking again some provinces.- making sure Austria is inexistent : as England, it's much harder, as you basically need to rely on the AI, specifically Hungary, Poland, Bohemia, Venice and/or the OE. From personal experience, I may say it's a really rare happenning.
I'd advise :
- if you can finish France, do it
- if not, try your luck with DA after 1467, and maybe even after 1472 (when vassalization will have 30 years), when they have their crappy monarch
- if both above-mentionned solutions fail, make some wars during the 1476-1484 period, preferably by DoWing far-away minors (if possible, landlocked), dropping out of war by separate war ASAP, and letting Burgundy wage that war (or let it white peace after 3 years). But you need to be ready to DoW immediately (or, safer way, make sure they're always in two different wars).
Thanks Lawkeeper.
It is a huge piece of advice.
Some of the conditions are met even now.My army maintence is always at 100%.I can attack France at any moment so I will do it as fast I concentrate the army.And after that next annexion of Britanny but it will be much easier,I hope.
Thanks.
It is a huge piece of advice.
Some of the conditions are met even now.My army maintence is always at 100%.I can attack France at any moment so I will do it as fast I concentrate the army.And after that next annexion of Britanny but it will be much easier,I hope.
Thanks.
Bad Monarch Names
Charles the Bad was Charles II, King of Navarre, who tried to overthrow the king of france a couple of times in the 14th century. I don't know if he got the adjective in his lifetime though. There're a bunch of frankish kings with at least non-positive adjectives too, llike Chalres the Fat, Charles the Bald, etc.
-Macar
Charles the Bad was Charles II, King of Navarre, who tried to overthrow the king of france a couple of times in the 14th century. I don't know if he got the adjective in his lifetime though. There're a bunch of frankish kings with at least non-positive adjectives too, llike Chalres the Fat, Charles the Bald, etc.
-Macar
Actually I was referring to the earlier discussion about negative adjectives, where Charles the Bad was brought up (though, reading further, I see someone already adressed it, so, sorry). He is (rather clearly) a different person from Chalres the Bold.
-Macar
-Macar
2 cents worth -- wasn't there a Byzantine Emperor with a lovely nickname like Constantine 'Name of Dung'? I don't think it was meant to be a compliment.
If you speak about diplo-annexations, yes infra will improve your production income, thus strengthenning your economy, thus improving your chances to successfully DA.ASAD said:
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lawkeeper said:
Yes it's my target to DA Burgundy.Incorporating areas from North Sea to Alpes for English Kingdom will boost my idea of controling whole Europa or a huge part of it by English.
lawkeeper said:Hmmm, "Lackland" doesn't design his mind or competency, but rather the fact that his french suzerain deprived him of his fiefdoms, so that's not kind of "judging" him.
I thought it was, 'cause he was the only brother without a duchy
Ah well, never mind I guess, same result in the end
John, King of England from 1199 to 1216, was nicknamed "Lackland" because his father, Henry II, had in 1169 made a division of the crown's lands among John's three older brothers, Henry, who received Normandy, Maine and Anjou, Richard Cœur de Lion, who received Aquitaine, and Geoffrey, who received Brittany. John, two years old at the time, was labled Lackland, for the lack of any land given to him. The term is certainly derisive, probably mildly so at first, but certainly much more so later, when used by John's enemies. Henry II attempted on two occaisions to rectify John's status; he first gave him Ireland to govern, but John lasted only 6 months before being unceremoniously asked to return home; upon the younger Henry's death, Henry II asked Richard to give Aquitaine to John and take instead the core inheritance previously given to the younger Henry; Richard refused to do this, leaving John with nothing of his own. John, of course, got the last laugh, surviving all his brothers, probably murdering his popular nephew Arthur (son of Geoffrey) and becoming King, though perhaps he wasn't laughing quite so hard at his death, being chased by French soldiers and English barons, having lost his crown treasury in The Wash, and dying from the soaking he got at the time.
All of you have huge knowlegde.Can someone write me all dynaisties which ruled England and the dates their ruling?
Saxon Kings : 802-1016ASAD said:
Danish Kings : 1016-1066
House of Normandy : 1066-1154
House of the Plantagenêts : 1154-1216
House of Capet : 1216-1217
House of the Plantagenêts : 1216-1399
House of Lancaster : 1399-1485
House of Tudor : 1485-1603
House of Stuart : 1603-1649
Commonwealth & dictatorship : 1649-1660
House of Stuart : 1660-1688
House of Orange : 1689-1702
House of Stuart : 1702-1714
House of Hannover : 1714-1901
House of Saxe-Cobourg : 1901-1910
House of Windsor : 1910-nowadays
Thanks.
After Commonwealth&dictatorship rule is the Stuart house.Are other houses after Stuarts House belong to Stuart dynasty or the next houses are from another dynasty?
After Commonwealth&dictatorship rule is the Stuart house.Are other houses after Stuarts House belong to Stuart dynasty or the next houses are from another dynasty?
Neither Edward (the Confessor) nor his brief successor, Harold Godwinson, were Danish. The Danish rule ended in 1042.lawkeeper said:
Although the future Louis VIII was in England at the time of John's death, his young son Henry was crowned Henry III without much dissent, and Louis never was allowed to exercise any actual power as a king of England.lawkeeper said:
We might want to mention the Yorks as well.lawkeeper said:
Say, from 1461 to 1485 (with the exception of 1470-1 when Henry VI was briefly restored to the throne).
As for ASAD's more recent question:
When James II Stuart was forcibly ejected from the country in 1689, his daughter, Mary, was asked to assume the throne, accompanied by her husband, William of Orange. They ruled jointly, the only time in English history both the husband and wife were regnant. Because William was an actual ruler, some would consider this period to be officially the "dynasty" of the House of Orange (he did outlive his wife, Mary, by a short time).
Upon the death of William, James II's other daughter, Anne, was asked to become queen. She was married to a prince of Denmark, but he was an inconsequential person and Anne ruled alone. During her time, the Act of Union formally joined the thrones of Scotland and England into one country. She had 12 miscarriages, and all five children who survived birth died before she did. She was the last of the Stuarts.
In 1701, before the death of William III, Parliament in England passed the Succession Act, which established that, in the default of a living heir of Anne, the throne would pass to the eldest son of Sophia of Bohemia, the granddaughter of James I of England, through his daughter, Elizabeth Stuart, who had married Frederick V of Bohemia. This was a great stretch for finding an heir, made necessary by the fact that England was not willing to have any of the Stuart "Pretenders" (James II or his son and son's heirs), who were Catholic. James I's only two children who survived to adulthood were Charles I of England (father of James II) and Elizabeth Stuart. But Elizabeth and Frederick had literally oodles of children, many of whom were born ahead of Sophia, and who had issue. The reasons for settling on Sophia's children are beyond the scope of even this overly long post. But the result was the accession upon Anne's death of George I, Duke-Elector of Hannover.
House Hannover still rules England. However, in 1901, when Edward VII ascended the throne, he formally took his father's lineage for his own name, "Saxe-Coburg-Gotha." Some consider this a change in "dynasty." It is difficult to know how to treat it precisely, because it is the only time in English history that the throne passed from a ruling Queen to her child; there is, therefor, no precedent. The family officially changed the name again during WWI to "Windsor."
Hmm...little complicated.
So after Stuarts were Hannover line and then Danish line which is Windsor now?
So after Stuarts were Hannover line and then Danish line which is Windsor now?
