I want a civil war!

[lucaluca]

In my games so far i didn't have a single civil war! :wacko: I had generals with thousands of troops at 0 % loyalty, several of them at the same time, but no civil war started. My kings were (and always are) at 100% popularity. They sometimes drop to 90% but they quickly rise again easily with modifiers/traits.

The civil war system is kind of broken. Civil wars should be way more frequent and devastating.

 

[unmerged(12378)]

In my Bosporan game I get civil wars constantly, and my Kings are often below 50% popularity, one guy even hit 0%.

 

[lucaluca]

In my Bosporan game I get civil wars constantly, and my Kings are often below 50% popularity, one guy even hit 0%.

what's your stability? I always have positive stability (2-3). I played Macedonia and Seleucid Empire so far. Especially Seleucids if played at high stability never ever seem to get a civil war no matter how many disloyal generals there are and how incompetent the king is.

Every king start at 50% popularity then few battles here and there, traits and especially technology modifiers (after about a 100 years) all team up to skyrocket popularity to 90%-100% and there it stays forever

I don't want to cause my own downfall by playing bad, the game should provide a challange here for a huge empire.

 

[SirGrotius]

I've had plenty of civil wars, consider yourself lucky that you've never had one. Does your leader have rivals?

 

[Enewald]

Just search the events and fire them yourself. Just go rome/events and then look out for civil war.
I just created a civil for fun, but my neighbours all decided to dow me as they saw me weak. In the end I conqured them all. Stupid version 1.1 gave me more troops all the time. o

 

[Airfixer]

trust me, you don't want a civil war.

I played macedonia and during the first 200 years or so I had over 15 civil wars. In the beginning they were a pain in the ass since I almost was defeated a few times, but in the end they were only pathetic. But as I see it, you really don't want it, since it might take many years, cost all your money and worse, all your manpower if it's bad.

Also a note: In my game the seleducid empire was in a civil war almost the entire game. The civil war broke out 10 years into the game and it never ended. Sometimes the rebels were close to the final victory and sometimes the "loyalists" were close to victory but no one ever won the war

 

[unmerged(48100)]

I've had plenty of civil wars, consider yourself lucky that you've never had one. Does your leader have rivals?

Eh, I don't find them too bad. Sometimes even fun. But then, there were three times when I came close to losing, and two of them were because of civil wars. Once, as Rome I had engaged in a war with the Seleucids when my glorious German legion decided to take Rome and everything but the rest of Italy and march towards Apulia (the new capital), trying to crush the Dictator. Once, as Carthage, in a similar situation. The leader of my main army, sieging Rome and even taking it, decided to march on Carthage instead, taking Rome, a good deal of the Mediterranean and parts of Egypt with him.
The third time, as Massilia, I had to find out what it means to engage in a three front war on my own with no manpower. I had crushed Rome earlier (and allied again with them afterwards. ) and now was taking the various Gallic powers, while "engaging" in a war with the Macedonian alliance together with the Romans (though all Greeks loved me and at first seemed to rather fight Rome than anyone else). Exactly at that time Carthage, having taken almost all of Iberia, decided to attack me. I did get a white peace with them eventually, simply because I was persistent enough, and managed to get Rome into the war, but not without giving tribute to Macedonia for a desperately needed peace.
The AI may be stupid sometimes, but it does exploit weaknesses quite well once in a while.

 

[comagoosie]

Alright people! I have had one civil war. One I tell you and it absolutely destroyed me. It wasn't the fact that my opponents were hard. no not that. It was the cost! All those bloody troops made me go 100 ducats into the whole each month at 0% maintenance! I played for 3 years after that before I realised I had to sell all my buildings and disbanded my troops. I was making a gain again, 10 ducats a month. Only 1,420 years until I get out of debt.

Of course it was 1.1

 

[Enewald]

Alright people! I have had one civil war. One I tell you and it absolutely destroyed me. It wasn't the fact that my opponents were hard. no not that. It was the cost! All those bloody troops made me go 100 ducats into the whole each month at 0% maintenance! I played for 3 years after that before I realised I had to sell all my buildings and disbanded my troops. I was making a gain again, 10 ducats a month. Only 1,420 years until I get out of debt.

Of course it was 1.1

that's why we have cheats?