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i view it as i really neglected espionage I'm all the HOI titles, probably not smart but i still won my wars. IRL espionage helped but the war wasn't decided upon it. "breaking the enigma code was a game changer but i don't think it "won" the war for the allies
 

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i view it as i really neglected espionage I'm all the HOI titles, probably not smart but i still won my wars. IRL espionage helped but the war wasn't decided upon it. "breaking the enigma code was a game changer but i don't think it "won" the war for the allies

True, but what about the plans the Polish resistance found about the German plans for the Kursk salient.
These allowed the USSR to prepare for the German attack, and a USSR loss here would have , at least, prolonged the war in Europe. I think.
So while Intelligence never was the obvious winning factor, it provided a very good foundation that enabled winning strategies and tactics.

That said, I am quite happy what they have done with the system now and would LOVE a system which allows for stealing of Battle Plans and making fake ones.
And I don't expect them to give it me for free, but I won't complain if they did :p
 
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Really? I must have dozed off at that point in the stream.. ) but in that case the OP's original question stands; it's hardly a fully-fledged espionage system if everyone has an accurate picture of each other's state secrets without huge trouble and expense. You think the devs are perfectly content with what they have, I think more will come later in a dlc - we'll see.
It's neither an accurate picture, nor covering state secrets. You don't see detail of whether the Soviets are building T34s, and what stats they are. You can discover things like how many of each factory type they have, estimated numbers of Divisions, ships and planes. If UK sees Germany building more naval dockyards, taking naval focuses, and the numbers of their ships starts increasing beyond historical levels then you can draw your own conclusions.

What the quality of the intel you get depends on whether your decryption is good enough and/or you have invested in radio detection, including building radar stations within range of a country you are interested in.