its unrealistic that wartired nations like france throw themself into minors business. germany can take austria and chekoslovakia but i cant romania as hungary
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i think the ai is too agressive with guarantees. theres no chance for minors.
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Maybe if they watched who created most tensions, if Germany makes most tensions, then block them, else block anyone else who did that
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They need to add a Nation specific Tension bar that is like the badboy points of old that tell people how much of World Tension you have caused and would make (mostly) Democracies make guarantee's and embargoes against you.
Minors also need their Resources looked at, Apparently everyone in the world but Major's only have 1 resource that they just get invaded for. Even if they are hidden behind decisions for "balance" reasons it would be an improvement. Apparently I can turn a nation with no Communists communist in about 2 years but founding a steel industry is too fantastical at present.
Minors also need their Resources looked at, Apparently everyone in the world but Major's only have 1 resource that they just get invaded for. Even if they are hidden behind decisions for "balance" reasons it would be an improvement. Apparently I can turn a nation with no Communists communist in about 2 years but founding a steel industry is too fantastical at present.
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Not sure if these examples are all that good. This is basically following historic precedent. Germany could do these things, because Britain and France knew that Germany had a ton of military potential, and a war might end in gigantic bloodshed, hence them trying not to risk a war, especially with them being behind on rearming. That's not something that applies to minor countries. You wouldn't want to mess with world powers as a minor, as they can put you into your place without even going to war. They can bully a minor into submission, because the minor is no real threat to them. They can starve it economically if they want to.
Look at what happened during the Balkan wars. The minors of the area had agreed upon a few items, e.g. Greece and Serbia splitting "Albanian" territority, only for the world powers to hold a conference about a war they weren't really involved in, and setting up an Albanian state instead. The big powers had zero interest in minors getting uppity. You upset the balance, or try to grow by taking over others, you get whacked. It's that simple.
If anything, the game is way too nice to smaller nations that try to turn themselves into some sort of Empire. This is obviousl done to allow for increased playability of minors, but it goes way beyond what these nations really could have done historically, both in terms of what they were capable of, and in what the big powers would have allowed them to do.
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Just play with guarantees off, that's what I do if I'm playing a war-mongering minor.
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Either that, or a minor that can be defended in a reasonable way.
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I hope they add a sort of "spheres of influence" mechanic for different levels of world powers and make it more clear which countries they would feel threatened if they are invaded.
-regional powers will have a certain set of countries in their continent or region they will defend or support as well as countries they don't trust
-great powers will defend countries on their continent and countries near their colonies/puppets
-superpowers (which can only come along late-game) will defend countries of their ideology and non-aligned.
-regional powers will have a certain set of countries in their continent or region they will defend or support as well as countries they don't trust
-great powers will defend countries on their continent and countries near their colonies/puppets
-superpowers (which can only come along late-game) will defend countries of their ideology and non-aligned.
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Allies were powerless do anything about German expansion and at the same time they also didn't mind that Germany got powerful because they wanted a strong buffer state against the Soviet Union in case of war, keep in mind Hitler was liked by UK and France until he occupied the rest of Czechoslovakia in 39.
Guarantee system can be silly many times, the Allies do nothing if Hungary pushes for restoration of AH and annexes both Austria and Czechs, but me justifying war on Tibet as PRC gets them guaranteed by UK, France or USA.
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The system definitely needs some improvement, but guarantee situation isn`t that silly. Weak nations usually have to secure some approval from a pool of large nations to invade somewhere. Larger nations, war with which tends to me enormously costly, can usually get away with a small invasion here and there.
Italy, Germany and Japan were the only countries that got away with invasions in 30s. Now, 2 of those wars was old-fashioned colonialism.
Italy, Germany and Japan were the only countries that got away with invasions in 30s. Now, 2 of those wars was old-fashioned colonialism.
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Just dropping in with my usual reminder to these kinds of threads, on just how easy you're getting it with ahistorical early conquests in HoI4, compared to the more diplomatically realistic HoI2.
I present you 1.1.1936, HoI2-style:
I present you 1.1.1936, HoI2-style:
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That's not entirely true. It's well known that if the western powers had continued imposing restrictions on Germany in 36-37, the germans would have to back down. Any war because of Rhineland or Austria would get Germany destroyed, and Hitler knew it (they weren't ready to war). What the western powers failed, as Pat Buchanan said, was to draw the line limiting the german sphere of influence. At the end of 39, after endless compliance with the desires of Hitler, he really thought that no one would honor their alliance with Poland.
It's true that, at first, they thought they could use Germany as a buffer state against USSR, but they never engage actively in diplomatic efforts to make that real, even though, at the time, Hitler had a positive view of the western powers (except USA).
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most games now jump to 25%wt at 37 i can never invade turkey or bulgaria as greece anymore its insane as a minor to fight both france and uk there should be a unit limit to how much you can put into a war as a democratic wartorn major.
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Well, I don't think the game is too harsh to minors. You need to check the world tension to expand and you can use your focus tree to get war goals too.
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What focus tree? He clearly mentioned Greece and not any of the minors from xpacs
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The majors wont guarantee your target if you have created less than 10 WT even when overall WT is above 25. Use this to your advantage and dont join faction too soon.
TENSION_MIN_FOR_GUARANTEE_VS_MINOR = 10 (for non faction country AI will not consider you worth guaranteeing below this)
TENSION_MIN_FOR_GUARANTEE_VS_MINOR = 10 (for non faction country AI will not consider you worth guaranteeing below this)
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you cant manage wt it only tiks up theres no way to wait it out or it to lower. justifying on one province is better than 3 it makes no difference as scripted event rush wt above 25 way before u can switch to fascism. its impossible to stay below 10 if u want to take 2 or more
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Each WT generating event revert to 0 at 0.1% per month (except the declare war event i think, you need be at peace to have that start ticking down)
I think you misunderstood here: if you dont personally generate more than 10, you dont need to care about the global WT. Furthermore, if the allies are already at war, they will normally not care about aggressive actions done by non-axis members (see how much WT the soviets are generating post danzig or war). So the trick is to get 2 countries (sometimes 3 if involving romania), wait until ww2 fires, then start justifying on 3rd and so on. Though one WT hits 100 countries will try to join alliance regardless of who their enemy is. That said, if you have conquered 2 countries you are already a semi-major power. Taking on the allies wont even be hard at that point.
If you cant do that, well, get better.
so if as greece i take bulgaria that 5% justifying then 6% annexing. i should wait 2 years before moving on turkey to go below 10. hoping it wont reach 50 and they autojoin just waiting until hitler invades poland.
yea its when i have 2 countries pre 1.8 was easy but now its so hard for me to take norway and denmark orbulgaria turkey. i can never get more than one. its not that i got worse. the spanish war always bumps wt by 15. yugoslavia is completely out of the question with an auto guarantee by france
yea its when i have 2 countries pre 1.8 was easy but now its so hard for me to take norway and denmark orbulgaria turkey. i can never get more than one. its not that i got worse. the spanish war always bumps wt by 15. yugoslavia is completely out of the question with an auto guarantee by france