I think something broke when they tried to make the AI doublecheck before a DOW.
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I can confirm that the AI no longer takes alliances into account when attacking. Which as someone mentioned, means allying any AI except for the big blobs is a horrible idea because you ally will drag you into horrible wars.
Hopefully, this gets fixed though, because there are some times in which I want to ally a small state. A prime example is when you force release a nation in order to break up a much larger foe: those released nation will practically never seek any alliances (I think the AI is straight up broken in this case). This means that unless I ally them, they will instantly get eaten by all their neighbors.
Hopefully, this gets fixed though, because there are some times in which I want to ally a small state. A prime example is when you force release a nation in order to break up a much larger foe: those released nation will practically never seek any alliances (I think the AI is straight up broken in this case). This means that unless I ally them, they will instantly get eaten by all their neighbors.
well gave it another try, but this time no alliances... and well, they didnt eat me 15 years in. So maybe there is something to it...
Castile and aragon go back and forth between domineering and protective. They warn me, then guarantee me, then revoke it. I was able to get royal marriages with Aragon, Castile, france and Portugal, so there is the chance only that is saving me.
Maybe I'll try another with no marriages or alliances.
Castile and aragon go back and forth between domineering and protective. They warn me, then guarantee me, then revoke it. I was able to get royal marriages with Aragon, Castile, france and Portugal, so there is the chance only that is saving me.
Maybe I'll try another with no marriages or alliances.
Yesterday i saw a provence with brintany as ally declaring war on France with Hungary + Venice as allies. Year was 1460 more or less.
Something is wrong.
Something is wrong.
Well when I did it I was an hre minor. If Ai has a mission to attack you they probably will. So perhaps navarra isn't a good test.
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Well I lasted until the PU event, then just allied castille. Perhaps the first test failed because I had an ally, perhaps I only made it on the second try from pure luck. Hard to tell of course...
Thing of note, genoa DoWed Tunis, who was allied to the Ottomans, and only had Urbino as their own ally, who of course refused to join. This AI is retarded.
Yup, something is on. Poland gets involved in some bullshet wars in HRE (for example OPM DOWs Bohemia, allied to PLC 
), Aragon DOWs Navarra allied to Castile and Portugal... It's gamebreaking if you ask me. Shouldn't we post this in bug reports?
), Aragon DOWs Navarra allied to Castile and Portugal... It's gamebreaking if you ask me. Shouldn't we post this in bug reports?
Yup, something is on. Poland gets involved in some bullshet wars in HRE (for example OPM DOWs Bohemia, allied to PLC
it has been
Just the other day saw Luneburg declare a war on Brandeburg which had already expanded somewhat. And was allied with Austria, the PLC (me) and an assortment of small HRE powers. But this is hardly "game-breaking" like some people said, mostly just funny.
i noticed the AI doesn't count neither DotF nor Warning. I was called in dozens of war, because i have warned all my small neighbhour and they didn't care about me (the same i saw for AI Warning, Ottomans have fought around 10 wars agains Wallachia and Crotia in the same side as Hungary)
Yes, as England or Burgundy player, I am noticing my Warnings are constantly being ignored when in prior patches, they were respected.
As England, just had Utrech declare war on Gelre for its core back ... I was allied to Gelre (planning to diplo-vassalize) and Utrech was warned by Burgundy.
So AI Utrech declared war against Burgundy & England essentially.
I wonder if the AI double-check is working inversely in a manner.
So AI Utrech declared war against Burgundy & England essentially.
I wonder if the AI double-check is working inversely in a manner.
This AI system could be fine, if allies didn't almost always jump in on defensive wars.
Perhaps the defensive alliances could use a bit more tweaking.
A nation should backstab an ally for another ally that they like much more, or not get involved if they like both for example,
Perhaps the defensive alliances could use a bit more tweaking.
A nation should backstab an ally for another ally that they like much more, or not get involved if they like both for example,
The AI doesn't care about warnings, allies or anything else. As long as the AI has a CB and bad relations with you, expect to see a war dec regardless of how suicidal it may be.
It's a mod called "MapModeButtons" available on the Steam Workshop. It does not change the checksum so it's Ironman compatible.
actually the AI cares about relative army strenght, but only between the attacker and the defender warleader. So i have seen Wallachia attack Hungary, but only when Hungary is losing a war, so the AI check the relative strenght between them but "forget" to check other countries which will join