I:R - Some character interactions are available, if you would exceed 100 tyranny, others not

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Description of problem
Some character interactions are available, if you would exceed 100 tyranny, others not

What platform are you playing on?
Steam

What game version are you running?
1.2.0 (Cicero)

Please select any/all DLC you have enabled.
Hellenistic world flavor pack

Do you have mods enabled? No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
If you are close to 100 tyranny, the game does not behave consistently in regard to character interactions which would lead to exceeding 100 tyranny:

- You can still banish imprisoned characters or proscribe them
- but you can't imprison, execute or set up gladiator fights anymore

I don't see the logic behind the different treatment and given that banishing or proscribing are essentially free in this case (because you can't exceed 100 tyranny technically), I think they are the bugged interactions here.

Steps to reproduce the issue.
1. Load save
2. Load up the character site of Chanakya Kautilya and hoover over/try out the interactions shown in the first pic
3. Load up the character side of Basavadatta Raiyana and see the tooltip when hoovering over the interaction "imprison"

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A fresh 1.4.1 example of this...

1. Load save
2. Check tyranny score of 82.50
3. Go to imprisoned Family head Hermesianax Zeuxid, see that a proscription incurs 30 tyranny, but is possible
4. Do that proscription and see that now 100 tyranny is reached
5. Try to initiate a process on any character you like, see that it is impossible because of "can't afford tyranny"
6. Go to imprisoned character Byraxis Therid and see that you can still ban him for 1 tyranny, while Execution, Gladiator Fight, Sell to Slavery and Smear Reputation are greyed out because of "can't afford tyranny". "Impose corruption sanctions" is greyed out here, because he is having not enough corruption - but I checked with other characters: that action can be done as well, even if you would exceed 100 tyranny.

I can't really see a logic behind what action are still allowed and which ones not. I'm aware that event options are never blocked by lacking "ressources" to spend, but for character interactions it works usually that way that you can only do, what you can afford - so I would expect a complete block of all the mentioned actions then (to sum them up again: "Proscribe", "Banish" and "Impose Corruption Sanctions" should made impossible, when you would go past 100 tyranny with them)

Since 1.4 has made running high tyranny a challenging, I think it could be worth correcting this (unless of course there is a higher logic behind I fail to see)
 

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Thanks for the report!

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This is still the case in 2.03 - example of being able to proscribe, which penalty would bring me wide over 100 Tyranny:

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