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Choosing to imprison characters in "Dealing with Elites"-event causes (dead) characters from "Nobody null_family"-clan afterwards
What game version are you running?
1.5.1
What platform are you playing on? Steam
Please select any/all DLC you have enabled.
Hellenistic world flavor pack, Epirus flavor pack, Magna Graecia Content Pack
Do you have mods enabled? No
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Title - I took this post of Trin Tragula
as hint that further reports of this are appreciated, given that a save is provided where such characters can be reliably "produced" - here is such one:
Steps to reproduce the issue.
1. Call up the character list or family tab of my foe Turmodigia and search for a character with the name "Cata Galana". See that she has the 2nd name "Galana" because of being member of the Galanii-Clan
2. Now sign peace in the ongoing war. Annex entire Turmodigia and the single territory of Clunia (belonging to their ally Arevacia)
3. When the dealing with the elites event comes up them, choose the 3rd option ("Imprison their leaders")
4 .Now (at least for me, as I have set the messaging options that way) I get a couple of pop-ups telling me who gets imprisoned.
2nd is Illica Magunna - now click on her pic in the pop-up to open her character sheet
5. If you now hoover over the pic of her dead mother - Cata Galana - everything is still fine namewise.
6. Now confirm the other imprisonments and continue the game for at least one day
7. Check Cata Galana on the character sheet of Illica Magunna again and see that she is now suddenly from the "Nobody null_family clan"
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Choosing to imprison characters in "Dealing with Elites"-event causes (dead) characters from "Nobody null_family"-clan afterwards
What game version are you running?
1.5.1
What platform are you playing on? Steam
Please select any/all DLC you have enabled.
Hellenistic world flavor pack, Epirus flavor pack, Magna Graecia Content Pack
Do you have mods enabled? No
Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
Title - I took this post of Trin Tragula
Minor characters can have children and they often will, either because they’re generated together through some event or when they did not start out as minor characters. As long as at least one parent is a major character they can also procreate.
The game is able to generally handle this without “null family” showing up and this was accounted for even when the system was made.
There are however some cases where a characters family name is lost, this used to show up as simply not having a last name but was changed in 1.4 to say “null family” so that it would more easily be identified as a bug when seen.
The problem with fixing this issue is to track down when it happens and why, it’s not easy to reliably reproduce. This is why it’s been made easier to see when it happens![]()
as hint that further reports of this are appreciated, given that a save is provided where such characters can be reliably "produced" - here is such one:
Steps to reproduce the issue.
1. Call up the character list or family tab of my foe Turmodigia and search for a character with the name "Cata Galana". See that she has the 2nd name "Galana" because of being member of the Galanii-Clan
2. Now sign peace in the ongoing war. Annex entire Turmodigia and the single territory of Clunia (belonging to their ally Arevacia)
3. When the dealing with the elites event comes up them, choose the 3rd option ("Imprison their leaders")
4 .Now (at least for me, as I have set the messaging options that way) I get a couple of pop-ups telling me who gets imprisoned.
2nd is Illica Magunna - now click on her pic in the pop-up to open her character sheet
5. If you now hoover over the pic of her dead mother - Cata Galana - everything is still fine namewise.
6. Now confirm the other imprisonments and continue the game for at least one day
7. Check Cata Galana on the character sheet of Illica Magunna again and see that she is now suddenly from the "Nobody null_family clan"
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