I:R - Cannot Take Special Pontic Decisions as Mithridatic Pontus [Temporary Fix Included]

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Description of problem
Cannot Take Special Pontic Decisions as Mithridatic Pontus [Temporary Fix Included]

What game version are you running?
2.0.2

What platform are you playing on?
Steam

Please select any/all DLC you have enabled.
Hellenistic world flavor pack, Epirus flavor pack, Magna Graecia Content Pack, Epirus Content Pack

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
Starting as Kios, I went the route to form Pontus as Mithridates III. Instead of attacking, annexing, and wiping out PON, I instead annexed them through event. However, in doing so, you disqualify yourself from the Pontic decisions.

The decisions that do not work if you become Pontus by event are:
- pontic_decision_sinope_capital
- pontic_decision_hellenistic_omens

The reason these decisions cannot be accessed if you annex Pontus by event are because of the potential requirements. Specifically, these following lines of code.
Code:
potential = {
            OR = {
                tag = PON
                has_variable = formed_pontus
            }

As you can see, this prevents you from taking the decisions unless you have the tag PON (the Kios formed Pontus tag is PTU, not PON), or unless you have the variable "formed_pontus". This excludes a fully event-formed Pontus from taking the final Mithridatic decisions due to not having the variable, and having the tag PTU not PON.

The fixes would likely be as follows:
1. Change the potential tag from PON (starting tribal Pontus) to PTU (Kios-formed Pontus)
2. Add the variable "formed_pontus" to the annexation effect in event dhe_mithridates.7
3. Add "has_variable = mithridatic_annexation" to the OR scope

For anyone stumbling across this and suffering from a similar bug, there is a temporary fix for you too:
1. Save your game as Pontus.
2. Launch the game in debug mode (Right click on game in steam, open "Properties", type "-debug_mode" in launch options without the quotations, then launch your game).
3. Load your save, then make a new save. Debug mode save it in an uncompressed file, which will make it readable.
4. Go to documents -> Paradox Interactive -> Imperator -> Save Games to locate the new save.
5. Open the file with a code editor, I recommend Visual Studio Code, but Notepad++ or Sublime Text or anything works really.
6. Search for "greco_pontic_traditions" in the save file. The file is several million lines long, but searching this will bring you to the variables applied to your tag specifically (PTU).
7. Insert the following code underneath another of the flag definitions. Be very careful that you don't mess up any bracketing. This is where a code program is needed.

Code:
 {
                        flag="formed_pontus"
                        data={
                            type=boolean
                            identity=1
                        }
                    }
8. Save the file.
9. Launch the game again, load that save file. The decisions should now appear.


Hope the fix there helps anyone stumbling across this before it's fixed in a patch.

Steps to reproduce the issue.
1. Start as Kios.
2. Upon the death of Mithridates II, and the ascension of Mithridates III, flee to Paphlagonia with Paphlagonian approval.
3. Demand to rule Pontus when the event appears.
4. AI accepts demands, become Pontus(PTU).
5. Select Greek traditions in dhe_mithridates.8
6. Note the decisions never appear.

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Thanks for confirming this is a bug. I've been unable to access those decisions in my current Ironman game. I'll probably abandon the campaign since I already received the Ktistes achievement. What a disappointment... I really wanted to get the full Pontic experience! :(