I paid $20 USD just so I could upgrade my fleets

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panionios

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The problem with AoW is that it doesn't include something BIG. Just little additions here and there.
 

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The problem with AoW is that it doesn't include something BIG. Just little additions here and there.

Lol the new rebel system and cardinal system aren´t big? The new trade system? Extra NIs?

Why don´t you apply for a job at Paradox, since you´re obviously much smarter than them. Such entitlement... The real issues the expansion have are the bugs, like the issue with frozen armies. THAT I can agree is a problem.
 

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So the thing is that in the old days nearly all of the stuff in the patch would be in a expansion pack and the maintenance of the previous version would stop. Now you get more regular patching (whether you think those patches are good or not is another thing), LOADS of free stuff and the option to support the devs in the ongoing development of the game by buying the DLC.

As others have said if you need all the main mechanics stuff in the free patch so that the DLC model works (maintaining one version) and this leaves a more limited number if things that can be gated off.

Whilst I agree that UI changes and usability improvements should probably be free I'm still happy to pay for them as they are also including loads of stuff in the free patch that I want to support.
 

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The problem with AoW is that it doesn't include something BIG. Just little additions here and there.

And they are nice additions indeed. I played 1.8 about a week or so without buying the DLC and it felt like something was missing. Now after I bought it I would say EU4 is finally on pair with EU3 (IMO!)
 

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Whilst I agree that UI changes and usability improvements should probably be free I'm still happy to pay for them as they are also including loads of stuff in the free patch that I want to support.

One of the reasons Paradox switched to this (DLC) model is because users could pick and choose which content they like to buy and still have an updated and supported game at all times, instead of being forced to buy expansions, potentially with (some) changes they don't approve of, to have an updated game.

In the past, even before DLC policy, small usability and functionality changes were introduced in free patches.

This runs contrary to it all. Not only one is forced to pay, he is forced to buy something he may not like to get what is basically a small functionality change which reduces the amount of clicking.
 

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So, because of this thread, I now remember that I can upgrade my fleets which is nice since, in my current game, the upgraded ships became available.
 

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Why don´t you apply for a job at Paradox, since you´re obviously much smarter than them. Such entitlement...

And you are?