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Originally posted by Dinsdale
I think that needs to be repeated a thousandfold. Every game engine, no matter how much "kneecapping," to steal a term from this thread, will have someone find an exploit.

I'd rather focus remain on gameplay too, not just the competative SP and MP groups.

I'm not sure I understand...

The changes made to EUII makes the game more realistic and more challenging. As far as the AI cheating, that is a necessity since no affordable AI can match a human. IMHO, it enhances gameplay.
 

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I'm just downloading 1.7, but reading this post, I doubt that I'll use it. EUII has been one of the best strategies game ever, but I've always thougth of it as game where you can change history in any way you like (with some realism thrown in).
With the new rules, there is too much history hardcoded into it. And endless rebellions don't make it interesting, they don't even make it more challenging, but simply annoying.
 

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Originally posted by Dawkins
Check the april 3rd beta patch :D

yeah, less revolts, instead income reduction!

- Revoltrisk is now on a yearly basis instead of a monthly basis.

- Revoltrisk now modifies provincial taxes and production instead. Each RR gives a -5% penalty


simply great :D
 

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Originally posted by Varyar
I'm not sure I understand...

The changes made to EUII makes the game more realistic and more challenging. As far as the AI cheating, that is a necessity since no affordable AI can match a human. IMHO, it enhances gameplay.

New difficulty tweaks do not specifically mean greater realism, they just mean greater difficulty.

Gameplay vs realism is a difficult line to balance (revolts for example.)
 

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Originally posted by Maximilian I
yeah, less revolts, instead income reduction!
Indeed, that's more to my likings.
I didn't listen to all this beta stuff, but what you say means, it's not in the 1.07 and will not get into future versions (if any) ? Someone must have decided that it's not good enough.
 

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I have come here tonight, and for a moment I was dissapointed seeing there was no beta patch for today. :D But then of course I realized I was just getting used to the excellent customer support. :)

I absolutely love 1.07, and especially this constant flow of beta patches long-long time after the game was released!

BTW, the version should be called at least 1.1 or something, in the view of the great changes since 1.05. :)

And no, I am not lobbying for future beta tester positions. :D But I have never really expressed my love for EU2 before, and felt I should do it. :)
 

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I agree that some of the changes in 1.07,while making the game harder don't make the game better. I would rather see the ai improve,not just throw in more rebs. If this was easy to do it problay would of been done. But how often have you seen an ai opponent take one prov then go away, and the ai sleeps.
Also alot of people talk of historical outcomes. But I ain't playing to be true to history. As I build my empire,I would hope the ai is building up theirs also. Almost always the ai empire eventually falls apart even when I as the human player never fight them.