I just love these situations

[Yoshijoe]

I love it when the overlord-subject roles IRL get switched around. BT of 6 btw , one of Ming's provinces bordering Tibet has a higher income than the entire country of Tibet.

 

[Rider_of_Doom]

Ming has no chance against these Yetis!

 

[Kraxis]

That's some hardcore Tibetans.
I know that they were pretty tough in the the medieval period, but this trumps it all.

I don't suppose you saw how it happened?

 

[wetblowdryer]

... and this is one of many issues with the protectorates system.

 

[sturmchef]

I sense foreign assistance.

 

[fleetothemoon]

... and this is one of many issues with the protectorates system.

Indeed. Still amusing though!

 

[Yoshijoe]

I don't suppose you saw how it happened?

I didn't see when it happened but most of the times when I checked the area, Ming was being sieged by someone, whether it was a massive peasant rebellion or the Russians, or even the Oirat Horde. I think their MP pool and economy were never really allowed to recover and Tibet just saw its chance to go wild with its Westernised troops. They could have gotten some help from Jaunpur when they were still around, they had around 30k troops before I came along but Tibet didn't really have noteworthy allies.

 

[fleetothemoon]

I don't suppose you saw how it happened?

After Tibet westernized, could they not had diplo-'protectorate' Ming?

 

[Saintrl]

After Tibet westernized, could they not had diplo-'protectorate' Ming?

They would need pretty good relations and diplo rep for that. It's possible though although doubtful.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

When I was fighting Vijaynagar with Assam, they became a protectorate of Malabar mid-war. Normally, that trash is awful because the master becomes war leader and it screws over the war score. However, in this case it meant I could repeatedly "100" Vijaynagar in terms of taking claims simply by sieging out whatever I wanted + Malabar...

Yes, protectorates need a total overhaul, not the slight tweak they're getting next patch.