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heh, i think Konig's first question was wehter you can start as Duke of Bavaria and become King of something but still be a vassal to the king of germany... that's not possible, right? someone said long ago that Kings cant have other kings for vassals
 

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von Loch Ness said:
heh, i think Konig's first question was wehter you can start as Duke of Bavaria and become King of something but still be a vassal to the king of germany... that's not possible, right? someone said long ago that Kings cant have other kings for vassals

Correct. A king cannot have a liege. A compromise could've been something like alliances between empires, but that's not in the game.
 

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Do the inheritance laws affect the possibility for cousins, nephews, uncles and other more distant male relatives to inherit? Is it possible at all?
 

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Totmes III said:
Do the inheritance laws affect the possibility for cousins, nephews, uncles and other more distant male relatives to inherit? Is it possible at all?

The great thing about "elective" is that with a little "adjustment" of provinces, you can bisicly choose who's going to be your vassal, and then you can switch to an uncle or cousin, providing they are still part of your dynasty.
 

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Mork said:
The great thing about "elective" is that with a little "adjustment" of provinces, you can bisicly choose who's going to be your vassal, and then you can switch to an uncle or cousin, providing they are still part of your dynasty.

Is there some rule for determining how distant someone can be related to you and still be part of your dynasty?

Also, if the position of king is elective, and your heir looses that election, do you continue to play as the heir, with whatever titles he may hold as vassal to the new king?
 

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Mork said:
The great thing about "elective" is that with a little "adjustment" of provinces, you can bisicly choose who's going to be your vassal, and then you can switch to an uncle or cousin, providing they are still part of your dynasty.

...but i suppose that would piss the other potential heirs off?
 

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Mork said:
This bloke.

[Snip picture of Rashid al-Menara and Eufemia von Nordheim]

So he's an Arab Muslim and she's a German Catholic, all living in the court of the Danish king. What culture/religion are the children?

2 children born (assuming no others died) between the time Eufemia was 18 and 23. Is this about average fertility? Any oddities like children born less than 9 months apart?
 

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richvh said:
So he's an Arab Muslim and she's a German Catholic, all living in the court of the Danish king. What culture/religion are the children?

2 children born (assuming no others died) between the time Eufemia was 18 and 23. Is this about average fertility? Any oddities like children born less than 9 months apart?

And I'd be interested to know if you had any opportunity to forbid/invalidate their marriage, if such an option even exists, that is. The idea of Christian/Muslim intermarriage in the Middle Ages is a bit ... galling. Reminds me of Steven Lawhead's 'Byzantium', which I won't go into for the sake of keeping things on-topic. ;)
 

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I don't think it was completely unheard of. Especially christian women marrying muslim men, as I think the reverse is forbidden to muslims.

But getting rid of the "Moor" (or his marriage) by some means so you could get the lass sounds like a plan. :)

As for Lawhead, I was informed of the potato-eating habits of the 5th century Britons by Taliesin. :D
 
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It would have been verbotten, by both Muslim and Christian standards, for there to have been intermarrying, particularly during the tension-rife era of the Crusades. I'm sure one can find isolated instances of it happening here and there, but would hope that in CK it's an exception rather than the rule.
 

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Interreligial marriage is definately in. As the King of Egypt I had quite a number of Moslem courtiers, and none of them had trouble marrying people of a different faith. I even got offers from many a sheikdom to marry my daughters away to them.
 

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monoxism said:
Interreligial marriage is definately in. As the King of Egypt I had quite a number of Moslem courtiers, and none of them had trouble marrying people of a different faith. I even got offers from many a sheikdom to marry my daughters away to them.

Oy vey. Here's hoping that's something rectified in a patch. :wacko:
 

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monoxism said:
Interreligial marriage is definately in. As the King of Egypt I had quite a number of Moslem courtiers, and none of them had trouble marrying people of a different faith. I even got offers from many a sheikdom to marry my daughters away to them.
So you can mod the muslims and co. in.Sweet!
 

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DaPacemDomine said:
It would have been verbotten, by both Muslim and Christian standards, for there to have been intermarrying, particularly during the tension-rife era of the Crusades. I'm sure one can find isolated instances of it happening here and there, but would hope that in CK it's an exception rather than the rule.

But just such a union was proposed in a peace discussions between Richard and Salidin. My memory is a bit sketchy but I think it was Richard's sister to be married to Saladin's cousin.
 

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Still, I think the practice was not unknown, I'd even say not too uncommon. I doubt there were that many Muslims married to german noble ladies in the danish court, ;) but in the "march" kingdoms along the Mediterranean it would not be completely unexpected to learn that a christian lady had, for some reason or other, married a muslim. According to historians, the attitude of the people in kingdoms bordering muslim lands tended to be a lot less hostile towards muslims than in lands farther from the border.